Proposal: Major Money Move between Mtl-Chi

[crazyhawk]

Not sure why Habs fans are unhappy with this trade ...
It's the 8OA that tilts this in the favour of Montreal.
Weber and Seabrook are like 4 months apart in age and arguably there is not going to be a big difference between their compared contributions going forward past a year. Crow and Price are both on the wrong side of 30 and have played a lot of minutes and both have been injured and showing signs of the wear and tear of playing their position. Anisimov is a serviceable center and more a less a throw in for an area of need for Montreal.
Neither team goes for this as Chicago would want to keep the 8OA and Montreal ... well who knows what Berg is thinking?!

 

[Spirit of 67]

You wouldn't by any chance be a Habs fan would ya?

 

[rent free]

Seabrook is by far the worst contact in that scenario.

NO he isn't. 10 million dollars for 8 years and 8 million for 8 years << 7 million dollars for 6 years. I don't know how you can dispute that.

 

[Beige Van]

The 8 million dollar guy is a lower echelon #1 defenceman. The 7 million dollar guy is a bottom pairing defenceman. Both players are the same age. Go to the polls board and post a poll Weber vs Seabrook worst contract and get back to me.

 

[rent free]

The 8 million dollar guy is a lower echelon #1 defenceman. The 7 million dollar guy is a bottom pairing defenceman. Both players are the same age. Go to the polls board and post a poll Weber vs Seabrook worst contract and get back to me.

That doesn't mean they have better contracts. That means they have more value. If the habs want to rebuild, this would be a great trade for them to accelerate on with the rebuild. They get rid of their elite players for decent ones and seabrook (who has a better contract than weber and price) and get a high pick in the draft.

 

[WJCJ]

Not for the hawks. They get the two worst contracts and give up their 1st round pick.

Just think about how bad Montreal would be though, wow, they would be the worst team in the league.

 

[rent free]

Just think about how bad Montreal would be though, wow, they would be the worst team in the league.

They'd probably be bottom 5 for sure.

 

[Habs Halifax]

How does this help the Habs?

Price or Weber alone would get Anisimov and the 8th OA. Why would we give you both and take similar contracts in return? To help the Blackhawks? This trade proposal has not considered the Habs perspective and is borderline disrespectful

 

[Beige Van]

That doesn't mean they have better contracts. That means they have more value. If the habs want to rebuild, this would be a great trade for them to accelerate on with the rebuild. They get rid of their elite players for decent ones and seabrook (who has a better contract than weber and price) and get a high pick in the draft.

If Seabrook is a significantly inferior player to Weber, how does he have a better contract? Because it's a mil/year less?? If you factor in the high likelihood that Weber will retire before the 23-24 season when his actual salary drops to $1,000,000, he has less term as well. Completely asinine to think that Seabrook has a better contract than Weber.

 

[rent free]

If Seabrook is a significantly inferior player to Weber, how does he have a better contract? Because it's a mil/year less?? If you factor in the high likelihood that Weber will retire before the 23-24 season when his actual salary drops to $1,000,000, he has less term as well. Completely asinine to think that Seabrook has a better contract than Weber.

It really isn't asisnine if you disregard the player. It's a cheaper contract overall; per year it's cheaper and it's shorter.

 

[Beige Van]

Good to know. I guess McDavid has a worse contract than Toews then.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Mtl gets:
Seabrook
Crawford
Anisimov
8th OV

Chi gets:
Price
Weber

Is there any upside to this for tjis

Hawks move 9 years of bad contracts a first and a good player for 16 years of bad contracts.

Deal hurts the hawks

 

[jfhabs]

Not for the hawks. They get the two worst contracts and give up their 1st round pick.

Seabrook contract is much worse than Price's and Weber's IMO. Both Price and Weber are still dominant player.
I wouldn't do it for Montreal, because I'm a season ticket holder. This kind of trade only helps Chicago short term. Crawford still has issue with is injury. The 8th is just not enough to downgrade that much.

 

[jfhabs]

That doesn't mean they have better contracts. That means they have more value. If the habs want to rebuild, this would be a great trade for them to accelerate on with the rebuild. They get rid of their elite players for decent ones and seabrook (who has a better contract than weber and price) and get a high pick in the draft.

A contract is good or bad depending on what you get for the money you spent, not just the money you spend... Weber is a much better player then Seabrook and the way is contract is structured (old CBA), it should be an easy contract to move from. You either have Nashville who don't want him to retire (cap recapture penalty) take him for him not to, or you can ship him to a cap team for cheap if he's still a decent defencemen in his late 30s.

Price is another story. He's been a superstar who carried his team on his back for many years. He wanted superstar money and got it, the term is just 2 years too long.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Not sure why Habs fans are unhappy with this trade ...
It's the 8OA that tilts this in the favour of Montreal.
Weber and Seabrook are like 4 months apart in age and arguably there is not going to be a big difference between their compared contributions going forward past a year. Crow and Price are both on the wrong side of 30 and have played a lot of minutes and both have been injured and showing signs of the wear and tear of playing their position. Anisimov is a serviceable center and more a less a throw in for an area of need for Montreal.
Neither team goes for this as Chicago would want to keep the 8OA and Montreal ... well who knows what Berg is thinking?!

The difference between Weber and Seabrook is massive. Weber still has some of the best defensive impacts among any defenceman in the NHL. Seabrook is a guy that gets healthy scratched. Plus Montreal has so many ways to deal with Weber's contract that its not that bad a contract for them. Crawford is not that far off from Price, but he's older. Anisimov isn't exactly an upgrade on what Montreal has (although Montreal needs center help), but his contract isn't great for his age and what he brings. The 8th is a big piece, but Montreal's downgrading a lot on present talent and aren't even really clarifying their future cap a lot with the deal.

Montreal needs more than the 8th OA to consider this.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Major money moving? More like Major rip off towards the Habs. Shut this one down.

 

[jfhabs]

Marketing wise, it's a terrible move for the habs. I had trouble giving away my tickets to customers last spring. Montreal is not a city where loosing for too long will be tolerated. This move would put us back so far.

Even if you're rebuilding you still need to have good vets around to show the kids. I prefer Weber and Price to keep long term even if the 8th pick is a very solid piece.