Trade: Mack to Bears for 2 first rounders

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Still mad sf didn't give up a similar package. They have the assets, too.

I salivate imagining teams trying to block Mack outside AND Buckner up the middle. They'd have no chance.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

I'm still sad that the Rams couldn't get him, even if their plan was just to have him for one season. That D would be absolutely monstrous.

 

[StreetHawk]

Still mad sf didn't give up a similar package. They have the assets, too.

I salivate imagining teams trying to block Mack outside AND Buckner up the middle. They'd have no chance.

At the time, yes. But, having Jimmy tear his ACL puts them in the running for a top 7/8 pick in the draft. Since the Raiders are headed to Vegas, I would hope that they wouldn't care that he's in SF.

Paul Gunther, the DC is dumping most of what GM McKenzie drafted. There's not many guys left on Defense on their rookie contracts. The SS Obi M is likely cut once he's off IR, Karl Joseph, the FS has played very little this year. The entire D is going through a transition.

 

[Dominator13]

Still mad sf didn't give up a similar package. They have the assets, too.

I salivate imagining teams trying to block Mack outside AND Buckner up the middle. They'd have no chance.

You would think SF is the LAST team in the league that would need Kalil Mack. Is seems like all they do is draft pass rushers. Weren't Armstead, Buckner and Thomas drafted back to back to back?

 

[John Price]

Did he show up for the rest of the game @Blackhawkswincup @VickAshley @tonyhawks77 because they did give up like 38 points yesterday

I can't be out there like Paul Heyman advocating for a player on a bad defense like this!

 

[Voight]

I'm still sad that the Rams couldn't get him, even if their plan was just to have him for one season. That D would be absolutely monstrous.

They had already given up a fair amount of picks for Cooks & Talib.

Plus it would be hard to fit that monster contract with Donald + Gurley + Cooks new deals and incoming extensions for Goff & Peters.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Did he show up for the rest of the game @Blackhawkswincup @VickAshley @tonyhawks77 because they did give up like 38 points yesterday

I can't be out there like Paul Heyman advocating for a player on a bad defense like this!

He is playing on bad ankle and was questionable on injury report all week

At this point Bears should sit him until he is 100%

 

[John Price]

He is playing on bad ankle and was questionable on injury report all week

At this point Bears should sit him until he is 100%

will he play next week

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

You would think SF is the LAST team in the league that would need Kalil Mack. Is seems like all they do is draft pass rushers. Weren't Armstead, Buckner and Thomas drafted back to back to back?

Armstead and Buckner are NT's. Buckner has been great as he's always been, and without a phantom illegal contact in the gb game he would be sitting at 5.5 sacks with next to no help. Thomas has been a disappointment so far.

 

[John Price]

This just might make the bears a playoff team.

Hopefully those two first rounders can become one Mack.

NFC NORTH CHAMPIONS

MACK DADDY

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Big game today to end Packers season and capture NFC North Crown

6 Tackles (5 Solo)
2 TFL
2.5 Sacks
3 QB Hits

 

[John Price]

The Bears aren't going to win their division in the next two years. I'm not convinced they're even a playoff team.

Cheers.

Saints
Falcons
Eagles
Rams
Vikings
Panthers

Those are 6 teams I think are definitely better than the Bears.

Then you have the Packers, Cowboys, Washington, and 49ers who might be as well. Cant see the Bears making the playoffs unless Trubisky makes the type of jump Wentz did from year 1 to year 2.

Falcons, Eagles, Vikings, and Panthers all finished with worse records than The Bear.

 

[The Burdened]

Elite QB's!

*looks at the final 4 QB's last year*
Brady
Bortles
Keenum
Foles

I know this is a website that is infatuated with "muh futures" (it's in the name of the site afterall) but adding a Khalil Mack is a big game changer. Chicago are now a very relevant team.

Are they gonna make a SB run? No.
Could they be int he playoffs? Absolutely.
There is a better chance they make the playoffs than bottom out and be a 2-3 win team (which is what Oakland would need to happen to save face in this deal)

for once I got a hot take right!

 

[IU Hawks fan]

for once I got a hot take right!

Hopefully you didn't

Are they gonna make a SB run? No.

 

[ViktorBaeArvidsson]

Because elite QB's are everything and are the best predictor for success.

The Packers have Rodgers (and an improved roster, imo) , the Bears do not.

The Vikings have Cousins (not an elite QB , but better than Trubisky, imo) and a vastly superior roster.

The Lions aren't pushovers either and have Stafford. Who is guess what? Better than Mitchell T.

The Bears are nowheres near good enough to sacrifice two 1st's. This deal has huge backfire potential, imo. By the time they're good enough Mack will likely be ending his prime --- and if that's the case , what's the damn point?

Take the two top 15 picks, Oakland.

Lol

 

[IU Hawks fan]

Because elite QB's are everything and are the best predictor for success.

The Packers have Rodgers (and an improved roster, imo) , the Bears do not.

The Vikings have Cousins (not an elite QB , but better than Trubisky, imo) and a vastly superior roster.

The Lions aren't pushovers either and have Stafford. Who is guess what? Better than Mitchell T.

The Bears are nowheres near good enough to sacrifice two 1st's. This deal has huge backfire potential, imo. By the time they're good enough Mack will likely be ending his prime --- and if that's the case , what's the damn point?

Take the two top 15 picks, Oakland.

Hahaha

 

[GKJ]

Bears bet on themselves and were right, so far.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

McGlinchy and Staley did a great job on him yesterday.

Hicks and Buckner were beasts inside.

 

[Il Mediano]

Lol

Hahaha

Cheers. I got that one wrong for sure. I didn't foresee the Packers having a disastrous season. I didn't think Nagy would be so beneficial for Trubisky (still not sold on him at all , but we'll see) and I thought the Vikings had a better roster (still not convinced they don't).

Hands up, the Bears have been really good. I'll eat my crow.

That said, I'm not convinced the Bears will do anything in the playoffs in the next two years, but we'll see what happens. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Packers come out firing next season if they get the right HC and have another strong draft. I'm sure you guys will make a point of quoting me if I'm wrong, though.

 

[RayP]

Cheers. I got that one wrong for sure. I didn't foresee the Packers having a disastrous season. I didn't think Nagy would be so beneficial for Trubisky (still not sold on him at all , but we'll see) and I thought the Vikings had a better roster (still not convinced they don't).

Hands up, the Bears have been really good. I'll eat my crow.

That said, I'm not convinced the Bears will do anything in the playoffs in the next two years, but we'll see what happens. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Packers come out firing next season if they get the right HC and have another strong draft. I'm sure you guys will make a point of quoting me if I'm wrong, though.

Isn’t the Packers roster pretty old and lacking depth? If they bring in a Caldwell or Pagano plus a pick in the 15-20 range, I don’t see that turning things around for them.

Theyre in a weird spot IMO, I don’t think that roster is good or deep enough to compete for 2-3 years and I don’t know if they want to waste 2-3 years of Rodgers at this point. So what do you do?

The Vikings will never win with Cousins being the QB, he’s just a stat padding loser.

The NFC is wide open IMO every team has their flaws.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

GB has some nice young pieces to build around on offense at skill positions

RB Aaron Jones (24)
RB Jamaal Williams (23)
WR Davante Adams (26)
WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling (24)
WR Equanimeous St. Brown (22)
WR Geronimo Allison (24)

And on D they actually have some real good young talent

CB Jaire Alexander (21)
CB Kevin King (23)
CB Josh Jackson (22)
CB/S Jermaine Whitehead (25)
S Josh Jones (24)
S Kentrell Brice (24)
LB Kyler Fackrell (27)
LB Antonio Morrison (24)
LB Reggie Gilbert (25)
LB Blake Martinez (24)
DL Tyler Lancaster (24)
DE Dean Lowry (24)
DE Montravious Adams (23)
DT Kenny Clark (23)

Some of these guys have already shown a lot at this level others are projects in need of development but the Packers roster isn't really that old

 

[ColbyChaos]

Teams that are better than the Bears as of this moment;

Vikings
Packers (the Rodgers factor)
Saints
Panthers
Falcons
Rams

Teams that will likely be around the Bears level;

Lions
Niners
Seahawks (They had a putrid roster on paper last year and still managed to win 9 games)

Rip Rodgers factor

 

[Gene Parmesan]

GB has some nice young pieces to build around on offense at skill positions

RB Aaron Jones (24)
RB Jamaal Williams (23)
WR Davante Adams (26)
WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling (24)
WR Equanimeous St. Brown (22)
WR Geronimo Allison (24)

And on D they actually have some real good young talent

CB Jaire Alexander (21)
CB Kevin King (23)
CB Josh Jackson (22)
CB/S Jermaine Whitehead (25)
S Josh Jones (24)
S Kentrell Brice (24)
LB Kyler Fackrell (27)
LB Antonio Morrison (24)
LB Reggie Gilbert (25)
LB Blake Martinez (24)
DL Tyler Lancaster (24)
DE Dean Lowry (24)
DE Montravious Adams (23)
DT Kenny Clark (23)

Some of these guys have already shown a lot at this level others are projects in need of development but the Packers roster isn't really that old

Only about 4 of those defensive players are legit players. The rest are replacement level.

 

[Troy McClure]

With the Bears on pace to give the #14 pick to the Raiders and the Bears looking pretty bad, this trade is looking like an expensive bet.

 

[StreetHawk]

With the Bears on pace to give the #14 pick to the Raiders and the Bears looking pretty bad, this trade is looking like an expensive bet.

Elite Defenders can only do so much. Still need to O to at least consistently move the football to win TOP and keep the D fresh if they can’t put up points.