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Proposal: Maatta to Buffalo

skis

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I'd give Määttä a healthy offseason for a change rather than trade him.
 

Rowley Birkin

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Has Maatta 's stock fallen that much?

On the surface a Nylander for Maatta trade makes lots of sense for Buffalo... To me at least.
 
mpp9

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skis said:
I'd give Määttä a healthy offseason for a change rather than trade him.
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He just had one. Pens can't be ****ing around for years on end. They have a few years to win. He's probably better off on a rebuilding team where there's less pressure on him to perform in the now.
 

is the answer jesus

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Riptide said:
Are you aware of how Sheary is producing? For a "meh LW", he's 12th in in the league in ES points and 15th in ES goals. For LWer's he's 2nd in ES goals and 5th in ES points in the league - and that's playing a dozen games less than some of the guys in front of him. So if that's "meh", I'm quite content with it! :laugh:
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Look at my post again. I'm aware of the season Sheary is having. I'm also aware he's been playing with the best player in hockey, its no coincidence. It doesn't take away from my overall point that a LW group that consists of Hagelin, Kunitz, Guentzel, and Sheary isn't some superb group, and especially not with the best guy in that group in Sheary being out several weeks, but there's no need to debate this crap. It's really irrelevant to Olli Maatta, whom the thread is supposed to be about.
 

Toby Flenderson

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Rowley Birkin said:
Has Maatta 's stock fallen that much?

On the surface a Nylander for Maatta trade makes lots of sense for Buffalo... To me at least.
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I agree. I would trade Maatta for Nylander in this off season. Think it helps out both teams significantly given the expansion draft.
 
SnoopDogg

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Tbj4life said:
I agree. I would trade Maatta for Nylander in this off season. Think it helps out both teams significantly given the expansion draft.
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It doesn't make sense for us, I don't think Maatta is an upgrade from a player like McCabe and there's no guarantee he'll work with our system, just look at what happened to Kulikov. Yes, he's been injured a lot, but he hasn't played too well when he's played.

Oh yeah, and there's no way I'd give up Nylander for McCabe V2. I really like McCabe, but Maatta isn't worth Nylander, maybe Bailey+3rd but not Nylander. Nylander can easily be just as good as his brother and I don't think too many Leafs fans would give up Will Nylander for a player like Maatta.
 

HogtownSabresfan

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Zip15 said:
Given the developmental leaps McCabe makes each year, I wouldn't be surprised if Murray wouldn't trade him straight up for Maatta. I think there's a strong argument that he's Buffalo's best overall defenseman. In any event, he's not being traded. Adding Maatta would be dandy, but not at the expense of McCabe.
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Better than Rasmus. I just stopped reading. That's silly.
 
Riptide

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is the answer jesus said:
Look at my post again. I'm aware of the season Sheary is having. I'm also aware he's been playing with the best player in hockey, its no coincidence. It doesn't take away from my overall point that a LW group that consists of Hagelin, Kunitz, Guentzel, and Sheary isn't some superb group, and especially not with the best guy in that group in Sheary being out several weeks, but there's no need to debate this crap. It's really irrelevant to Olli Maatta, whom the thread is supposed to be about.
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At least you got one thing right. :laugh:
 
Snippit

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Maatta has been quite bad this year. Yes, I know how good he was before his injury.

I'm not quite sure he's going to rebound either. Yes I know he's 22, but he doesn't seem to be improving.
 
Snippit

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Aladyyn said:
I don't agree that he's better but I think it's fair to say McCabe's skillset is harder to replace from within the organization. He's our best defensive defenseman.
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Risto is better defensively.

Risto sucks at 2 on 1's, but overall he's solid in his own end.
 
Aladyyn

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Zip15 said:
He's not better defensively than McCabe. Jake is the superior player in the defensive zone. At least right now.
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Yup, there is a reason Risto only has decent results in his current role when paired with McCabe.
 
Empoleon8771

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Snippit said:
Am I wrong?

As for McCabe vs Risto, I can't agree with you two at all on that, but we all watch the games, so I'll leave it at that.
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Yeah, I'd say you're at least partially wrong. Maatta has had rough patches, but to say he has been bad all year isn't accurate.
 
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Zip15 said:
He's not better defensively than McCabe. Jake is the superior player in the defensive zone. At least right now.
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*rolls eyes*

Prepares for spreadsheet analysis.

I'm pretty sure I was the most ardent McCabe supporter on the Sabres board for a while. During the offseason, half of the board was posting their upgrades for him, meanwhile I was telling you how he was going to have a shot at being our top LD. I was correct. That said, he is not better than Risto defensively. Good player, but the skill set is limited.
 
Snippit

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Empoleon8771 said:
Yeah, I'd say you're at least partially wrong. Maatta has had rough patches, but to say he has been bad all year isn't accurate.
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Okay maybe I'm catching him on the wrong nights.

But he definitely doesn't look as good as he did when he first broke into the league.

And it is interesting that there's a thread on the Pens board, entitled "Olli Maatta - what to do with him." Didn't bother to read it, but...
 
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Snippit said:
Okay maybe I'm catching him on the wrong nights.

But he definitely doesn't look as good as he did when he first broke into the league.

And it is interesting that there's a thread on the Pens board, entitled "Olli Maatta - what to do with him." Didn't bother to read it, but...
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I think it has something to do with the fact that at expansion time, they will have to expose one of Maatta, Dumolin(sp?), and Schultz if they want to go 7-3-1. And from what I hear, they want to go 7-3-1.
 
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