Value of: M.E. Vlasic

[Mac Attack]

I keep hearing people say this, but it’s just not true. HF told us over and over again that Mikkel Boedker had negative value, but we absolutely got value back for him.

Vlasic isn’t what he used to be and he’s a little overpaid, but he’s still a very good #3D at worst and when it really mattered (ie the playoffs) Vlasic really stepped up last season. I guarantee you that if he was available, we’d get decent offers. For better or worse, reputations stick with GMs longer than actual results. Off the top of my head, when they selected Marleau for the 2014 Canadian Olympic squad, Chiarelli admitted to not having watched Marleau all year. And this was a guy who was an established star at the time, not some obscure depth player.

You may have gotten value for Boedker but remember who you were trading with.

 

[Boy Hedican]

This is hilarious. Pickles loves it in SJ. He’s perfectly happy being his low key self and SJ has no problem with him being just that.

Lock this up.

 

[Kale Hulls]

Still waiting on a source for your claims.

The f*** are you on? Alzner f***ing sucks I don't need to hire a team of analysts to tell you that.

 

[Kale Hulls]

This is hilarious. Pickles loves it in SJ. He’s perfectly happy being his low key self and SJ has no problem with him being just that.

Lock this up.

It's funny when sharks fans say he's salty all the time but also say he's super happy in sj.

 

[Crazy Joe Divola]

It's funny when sharks fans say he's salty all the time but also say he's super happy in sj.

His personality =\= his feelings toward the Sharks.

He has always been who he is, nothing has changed.

 

[Mac Attack]

Vlasic is cooked. Not sure what that says about MacKinnon since Vlasic pretty much shut him down in the playoffs last year.

Honestly it was the sharks playing trap style hockey that gave Mackinnon trouble. He is amazing off the rush, and they just lined up their whole squad on the blueline and forced the Av's to dump the puck in. Super frustrating but great coaching.

 

[SlapshotTheMovie]

The **** are you on? Alzner ****ing sucks I don't need to hire a team of analysts to tell you that.

YOUR SOURCE THAT VLASSIC IS UPSET you dork. Stop avoiding providing proof of your insane claim.

 

[Boy Hedican]

It's funny when sharks fans say he's salty all the time but also say he's super happy in sj.

It’s funny how you take a few sharks fans posts about his personality as an indication that he wants out and even start a thread about it. Hilarious really.

Pickles has had the same stoic personality since putting on the big black fish at 18. Nothing has changed.

 

[themelkman]

Vlasic isn’t moving anytime soon

 

[weastern bias]

OP is a low effort troll

Source - reading HF boards

 

[BillR10]

Slightly overpaid #2/3 dman. If the sharks were to move him it would be in a cap space move or for a slightly overpaid forward that's a definite top 6 forward.

Now to burst the bubble, the sharks are not moving him. As everyone has said there is no reputable source saying that he is unhappy and you cant provide one. Obviously, you seen that he didnt get a letter and jumped to starting a rumor that he was upset. This thread should just be locked up

 

[Juxtaposer]

It's funny when sharks fans say he's salty all the time but also say he's super happy in sj.

Have you ever heard of this fantastic thing called A Joke?

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

Personality is not the same as mood, right?
the way I always understood it, personality is like the climate. Mood is like the weather.
One is characteristic, the other is day-to-day.
So Vlasic might have a salty personality, but if he's upset, that's just a mood and it may just be a one-time thing.

IF he's upset....still waiting on a source for that. I'd contact Kurz if you need to go way inside.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

The facts of Vlasic at this point is that there's no evidence to support that he's upset about the letters. Vlasic is an incredibly salty and sarcastic person but there's no evidence to suggest that he wants out. If we were to assume that Vlasic does want out and only wanted to go to say Montreal then the return would likely suck and that would be okay. The Sharks would likely have to take back Alzner assuming the Sharks aren't on his no-trade list but the Habs would have to probably add a prospect on your reserve list and a 2nd.

 

[TT1]

The facts of Vlasic at this point is that there's no evidence to support that he's upset about the letters. Vlasic is an incredibly salty and sarcastic person but there's no evidence to suggest that he wants out. If we were to assume that Vlasic does want out and only wanted to go to say Montreal then the return would likely suck and that would be okay. The Sharks would likely have to take back Alzner assuming the Sharks aren't on his no-trade list but the Habs would have to probably add a prospect on your reserve list and a 2nd.

I wouldnt move Alzner 1 for 1 for Vlasic, 0% chance. Alzner will be bought out next year, why would we wanna be stuck with Vlasics $ and term for several more years?

Look around at what's happening in the NHL right now, id much rather have the cap space. Having cap space is a big asset, you could easily end up fleecing a cap ridden team.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

I wouldnt move Alzner 1 for 1 for Vlasic, 0% chance. Alzner will be bought out next year, why would we wanna be stuck with Vlasics $ and term for several more years?

Look around at what's happening in the NHL right now, id much rather have the cap space. Having cap space is a big asset, you could easily end up fleecing a cap ridden team.

Or you could end up spending more than Vlasic makes on Alzner and Chiarot.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I wouldnt move Alzner 1 for 1 for Vlasic, 0% chance. Alzner will be bought out next year, why would we wanna be stuck with Vlasics $ and term for several more years?

Look around at what's happening in the NHL right now, id much rather have the cap space. Having cap space is a big asset, you could easily end up fleecing a cap ridden team.

Because Vlasic's actually a very good player that is still a pretty good top pairing shutdown d-man. That's why.

 

[Taurrax]

Would have to take a bad contract back. As a Habs fan Im interested but you would have to take Alzne contract

Why even bring Alzner up? No one wants an AHL defender for 5 million/yr. That's a bad contract AND a bad player.

 

[TT1]

Or you could end up spending more than Vlasic makes on Alzner and Chiarot.

Like i said, Alzner will be gone next year and we have the cap space to hold his contract. Chiarot has a 3 year term @ 3.5M and he fills a need (big/physical defensive LD). Vlasics contract is a boat anchor, best of luck with him.

 

[The Nemesis]

For like the 8th or 9th time:

Do you have an actual, credible source that he's upset with management? Or is this a shallowly disguised attempt to play off of your personal disbelief over the fact that Vlasic didn't get a spot in the Sharks' new C/A assignments and therefore believe that he too must be angry and wants out?

Because if it's the latter, there's basically no reason for this thread to exist.

 

[Nolan11]

Lock this bad boy up. No source, no news, no discussion

 

[Patty Ice]

Lock this bad boy up. No source, no news, no discussion

Sure there is. Someone wouldnt even trade Karl Alzner for Vlasic.

 

[greasysnapper]

Vlasic is so unfairly hated by some people. I love him. He's a fantastic defender. He's probably still in the top 10 in that regard. He showed in this playoffs why he's worth that contract.

 

[fasterthanlight]

To add: vlasic really returned to form last season after he stopped trying to be Erik Karlsson. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if this was a weird coaching adjustment either.

 

[Boy Hedican]

Nothing to see here folks. The toll is reading and believing there’s something here but there’s no bridge to cross. There’s just a troll.