Value of: LW Matt Beleskey at $950k

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Saw it mentioned in another thread, but I wonder what it'd cost to convince the Rangers to eat another half of that contract for another team. Mid round pick or B prospect? He's been an abomination this season but as a possible bounce back, he'd be a decent gamble at under $1m for the next two seasons. At that price he wouldn't have a cap impact if he doesn't find his game again at the NHL level if he cleared waivers. For the Rangers, it would be slightly cheaper than buying him out this summer. Thoughts?
 

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Saw it mentioned in another thread, but I wonder what it'd cost to convince the Rangers to eat another half of that contract for another team. Mid round pick or B prospect? He's been an abomination this season but as a possible bounce back, he'd be a decent gamble at under $1m for the next two seasons. At that price he wouldn't have a cap impact if he doesn't find his game again at the NHL level if he cleared waivers. For the Rangers, it would be slightly cheaper than buying him out this summer. Thoughts?

Only one team can retain on one player up to 50% of his total salary [mod]
 
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No one is taking him. Maybe for future considerations or a conditional seventh
 

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You can only retain on 3 contracts. I have to think you save one for Staal and one for Henrik. Can't say se use the other to save minimal money on Beleskey.
 

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Only one team can retain on one player up to 50% of his total salary[mod]
I've never read anything regarding this rule on this site or in the CBA. And I can't see a reason why they'd prevent teams from doing it.
 
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You can only retain on 3 contracts. I have to think you save one for Staal and one for Henrik. Can't say se use the other to save minimal money on Beleskey.
Three per season. Nash's will be gone starting next year and I can't see either of the players you've mentioned being moved at the deadline.
 

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I've never read anything regarding this rule on this site or in the CBA. And I can't see a reason why they'd prevent teams from doing it.

Go check the CBA again, I'm trying to think of the section but last time I looked at it was in December on my laptop that I no longer have (nephew spilt pop on it while playing minecraft or something) and i dislike reading long stories on my phone as the screen is small and wastes to much of my time.
 

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I've never read anything regarding this rule on this site or in the CBA. And I can't see a reason why they'd prevent teams from doing it.

Also the condescending tone is completely unnecessary.
Only 50% of a salary can be retained
 

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Capfriendly seems to have this rule in the GM tool. There's still some very vague wording regarding it. I'm not convinced one way or another. I'm just assuming it's legal.
 
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But still you have a good basis Belesky at 1.9 isn't bad, maybe take a contract back of a plug who's getting 1.5-2m, maybe Bells just needed a change of scenery?
 

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Only 50% of salary can be retained by one team, Oilers ate half of Dubnyk's salary when they traded him to Nashville and then Nashville ate some more salary when they traded him to Montreal.

Do you have proof of this? Cause the cba says only up to 50% of the total salary can be retained
 

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Yep, I seem to remember the same thing with Dubnyk. He was traded with 50% retention to Nashville. Nashville then retained 50% of the remainder and traded him to Montreal. Edmonton was paying 50% of the total salary, Nashville and Montreal 25%.

And the edit below proves it:

 
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FameFlame069

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I checked the CBA, and you're right (OP) you can do it, two teams can retain on the same player(Boston retains 50% of 3.8m so 1.9m stays with Boston and then Rangers can retain another 50%/25% of the total cap hit/salary and it doesn't affect what Boston pays)
 

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If there’s 1 million or less on the cap who cares . He also has a shot at 4th line duty given the current roster
 

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Only 50% of salary can be retained by one team, Oilers ate half of Dubnyk's salary when they traded him to Nashville and then Nashville ate some more salary when they traded him to Montreal.

I was trying to think of this . I knew it happen once or at least I thought it happen once on a former Oiler player
 

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Saw it mentioned in another thread, but I wonder what it'd cost to convince the Rangers to eat another half of that contract for another team. Mid round pick or B prospect? He's been an abomination this season but as a possible bounce back, he'd be a decent gamble at under $1m for the next two seasons. At that price he wouldn't have a cap impact if he doesn't find his game again at the NHL level if he cleared waivers. For the Rangers, it would be slightly cheaper than buying him out this summer. Thoughts?

Depends if there are still some teams out there who consider him a "NHL player".

Even 950K still seems pricey for a reclamation project who is currently struggling at the AHL level.

 

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Hm. I really thought he would do well in Boston after his performance in the 2015 playoffs.
 

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Saw it mentioned in another thread, but I wonder what it'd cost to convince the Rangers to eat another half of that contract for another team. Mid round pick or B prospect? He's been an abomination this season but as a possible bounce back, he'd be a decent gamble at under $1m for the next two seasons. At that price he wouldn't have a cap impact if he doesn't find his game again at the NHL level if he cleared waivers. For the Rangers, it would be slightly cheaper than buying him out this summer. Thoughts?
How does a buyout work for retained salary players? It doesn't seem like you could even buy him out of half a contract.
 

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He's not "a decent gamble" for anyone. Since he was injured he has dropped through the Bruins depth chart like a rock. He ended up as an AHL 4th liner.
 

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