Lundqvist or Luongo?

[SeanMoneyHands]

Who was better?

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[jetsforever]

My two favourite goalies, gotta go with Lundqvist here though

 

[CokenoPepsi]

It close but the King has a clear edge

 

[Grub]

Luongo since I have to pump his tires.

 

[Three On Zero]

Very close

 

[Nasti]

Luongo was the most overrated goalie of his generation. I voted Lundqvist.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Shouldnt be close. Lundqvist.

 

[Felidae]

Luongo is getting disrespected here. Here are the stats.

Luongo

Regular Season
Career GP 1044
Career SV% .919

Playoffs
Career GP 70
Career SV% 9.18

Vezina finishes: 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 7, 7, 9, 10

Hart finishes: 2, 6, 10, 12, 15, 17

SV% finishes

2000-01 NHL .920 (7th)

2001-02 NHL .915 (10th)

2002-03 NHL .918 (9th)

2003-04 NHL .931 (3rd)

2005-06 NHL .914 (9th)

2006-07 NHL .921 (4th)

2008-09 NHL .920 (5th)

2010-11 NHL .928 (3rd)

2015-16 NHL .922 (9th)

2017-18 NHL .929 (3rd)

Career NHL .919 (9th)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Henrik Lundqvist

Regular season
Career GP 887
Career SV% .918

Playoffs
Career GP 130
Career SV% .921

Vezina finishes: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6, 6
Hart finishes: 3, 9, 14, 17, 22, 23, 23

SV% finishes

2005-06 NHL .922 (4th)

2006-07 NHL .917 (10th)

2009-10 NHL .921 (8th)

2010-11 NHL .923 (7th)

2011-12 NHL .930 (4th)

2012-13 NHL .926 (5th)

2014-15 NHL .923 (9th)

Active .918 (4th)

Career NHL .918 (10th)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

As you can see. Luongo maintained a higher save percentage playing 157 more games, and also has better SV% finishes.

In the postseason, Lundqvist actually improved his play and has a higher SV% while playing 60 more games, but it's also a smaller sample size.

No matter how you slice it, it is close, much more so than the poll indicates

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

Luongo is getting disrespected here. Here are the stats.

Luongo

Regular Season
Career GP 1044
Career SV% .919

Playoffs
Career GP 70
Career SV% 9.18

Vezina finishes: 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 7, 7, 9, 10

Hart finishes: 2, 6, 10, 12, 15, 17

SV% finishes

2000-01 NHL .920 (7th)

2001-02 NHL .915 (10th)

2002-03 NHL .918 (9th)

2003-04 NHL .931 (3rd)

2005-06 NHL .914 (9th)

2006-07 NHL .921 (4th)

2008-09 NHL .920 (5th)

2010-11 NHL .928 (3rd)

2015-16 NHL .922 (9th)

2017-18 NHL .929 (3rd)

Career NHL .919 (9th)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Henrik Lundqvist

Regular season
Career GP 887
Career SV% .918

Playoffs
Career GP 130
Career SV% .921

Vezina finishes: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6, 6
Hart finishes: 3, 9, 14, 17, 22, 23, 23

SV% finishes

2005-06 NHL .922 (4th)

2006-07 NHL .917 (10th)

2009-10 NHL .921 (8th)

2010-11 NHL .923 (7th)

2011-12 NHL .930 (4th)

2012-13 NHL .926 (5th)

2014-15 NHL .923 (9th)

Active .918 (4th)

Career NHL .918 (10th)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

As you can see. Luongo maintained a higher save percentage playing 157 more games, and also has better SV% finishes.

In the postseason, Lundqvist actually improved his play and has a higher SV% while playing 60 more games, but it's also a smaller sample size.

No matter how you slice it, it is close, much more so than the poll indicates

You forgot to mention the "1" in 1 of Lundqvists Vezina finishes. Kind of a big deal.

 

[Nickmo82]

Luongo is getting disrespected here. Here are the stats.

Luongo

Regular Season
Career GP 1044
Career SV% .919

Playoffs
Career GP 70
Career SV% 9.18

Vezina finishes: 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 7, 7, 9, 10

Hart finishes: 2, 6, 10, 12, 15, 17

SV% finishes

2000-01 NHL .920 (7th)

2001-02 NHL .915 (10th)

2002-03 NHL .918 (9th)

2003-04 NHL .931 (3rd)

2005-06 NHL .914 (9th)

2006-07 NHL .921 (4th)

2008-09 NHL .920 (5th)

2010-11 NHL .928 (3rd)

2015-16 NHL .922 (9th)

2017-18 NHL .929 (3rd)

Career NHL .919 (9th)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Henrik Lundqvist

Regular season
Career GP 887
Career SV% .918

Playoffs
Career GP 130
Career SV% .921

Vezina finishes: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6, 6
Hart finishes: 3, 9, 14, 17, 22, 23, 23

SV% finishes

2005-06 NHL .922 (4th)

2006-07 NHL .917 (10th)

2009-10 NHL .921 (8th)

2010-11 NHL .923 (7th)

2011-12 NHL .930 (4th)

2012-13 NHL .926 (5th)

2014-15 NHL .923 (9th)

Active .918 (4th)

Career NHL .918 (10th)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

As you can see. Luongo maintained a higher save percentage playing 157 more games, and also has better SV% finishes.

In the postseason, Lundqvist actually improved his play and has a higher SV% while playing 60 more games, but it's also a smaller sample size.

No matter how you slice it, it is close, much more so than the poll indicates

What place did Lundquist finish in the Vezina voting the year he won it? He had to have been pretty high up.

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

Vezina: 1-0
Finalist: 5-3
Top 5: 7-5
Top 10: 10-9

Lundqvist clearly has the better high end Vezina finishes. Lundqvist was the better playoff performer. Luongo wasn't as bad as some people tried to say but he was clearly not as good as Lundqvist. Both guys have an Olympic gold. Lundqvist was better in his SCF appearance than Luongo was in his.

Clearly Lundqvist.

 

[Felidae]

You forgot to mention the "1" in 1 of Lundqvists Vezina finishes. Kind of a big deal.

Yeah I did.

That doesn't change much statistically though. They are still very close.

 

[Regal]

Lundqvist’s consistency and playoff performances give him a clear edge, though I think Luongo was better at his best. He rebuilt his game after the groin injury, but his side to side movement could always be exploited, which is the Luongo too many remember.

 

[TGWL]

Luongo is getting disrespected here. Here are the stats.

Luongo

Regular Season
Career GP 1044
Career SV% .919

Playoffs
Career GP 70
Career SV% 9.18

Vezina finishes: 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 7, 7, 9, 10

Hart finishes: 2, 6, 10, 12, 15, 17

SV% finishes

2000-01 NHL .920 (7th)

2001-02 NHL .915 (10th)

2002-03 NHL .918 (9th)

2003-04 NHL .931 (3rd)

2005-06 NHL .914 (9th)

2006-07 NHL .921 (4th)

2008-09 NHL .920 (5th)

2010-11 NHL .928 (3rd)

2015-16 NHL .922 (9th)

2017-18 NHL .929 (3rd)

Career NHL .919 (9th)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Henrik Lundqvist

Regular season
Career GP 887
Career SV% .918

Playoffs
Career GP 130
Career SV% .921

Vezina finishes: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5, 6, 6, 6
Hart finishes: 3, 9, 14, 17, 22, 23, 23

SV% finishes

2005-06 NHL .922 (4th)

2006-07 NHL .917 (10th)

2009-10 NHL .921 (8th)

2010-11 NHL .923 (7th)

2011-12 NHL .930 (4th)

2012-13 NHL .926 (5th)

2014-15 NHL .923 (9th)

Active .918 (4th)

Career NHL .918 (10th)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

As you can see. Luongo maintained a higher save percentage playing 157 more games, and also has better SV% finishes.

In the postseason, Lundqvist actually improved his play and has a higher SV% while playing 60 more games, but it's also a smaller sample size.

No matter how you slice it, it is close, much more so than the poll indicates

Lundqvist was better but didn't have a great finish to his career. Rangers were terribly defensively and Lundqvist was done or at least frustrated enough to not perform well. It ruins his numbers but that's what happens when you want to continue being a starter at the end of your career. All stats count but that really messed up his career average.

 

[Felidae]

Lundqvist was better but didn't have a great finish to his career. Rangers were terribly defensively and Lundqvist was done or at least frustrated enough to not perform well. It ruins his numbers but that's what happens when you want to continue being a starter at the end of your career. All stats count but that really messed up his career average.

Then we have to give credit to Luongo for aging better. By the time Lundqvist retired at age 37 with a 905 sv%, luongo still put up a .915 and .929 sv% at ages 37 and 38 playing 30-40 games in each of those seasons. Only in his final season did he finally drop below .900

And if we wanna go back a bit further Lundqvists last .920 and above SV% was at 33 year old, and he never had a season above .915sv% after that. Meanwhile Luongo still had 3 more seasons where he went above a .920 sv%, and never dropped below .915 until his final season at 39 years old.

 

[TGWL]

Then we have to give credit to Luongo for aging better. By the time Lundqvist retired at age 37 with a 905 sv%, luongo still put up a .915 and .929 sv% at ages 37 and 38 playing 30-40 games in each of those seasons. Only in his final season did he finally drop below .900

And if we wanna go back a bit further Lundqvists last .920 and above SV% was at 33 year old, and he never had a season above .915sv% after that. Meanwhile Luongo still had 3 more seasons where he went above a .920 sv%, and never dropped below .915 until his final season at 39 years old.

I don't think anybody is taking away anything from Luongo for aging better, but Lundqvist was better. Isn't that the question? Not which goalie lasted the longest without falling off, but which goalie was better? And it's not like Lundqvist had a short career of being great. He was one of, if not the most consistent goalie through-out that time. How does his stats play out without a rebuild / trading off players? No idea. The team was done and Lundqvist was quite frustrated with the direction. I was looking forward to seeing what he could do in Washington but we never got that opportunity.

 

[Hisch13r]

It close but the King has a clear edge

That's basically where I am as well.

 

[I Hate Blake Coleman]

Lundqvist's reputation as a top goalie has never felt undeserved to me.

 

[Felidae]

I don't think anybody is taking away anything from Luongo for aging better, but Lundqvist was better. Isn't that the question? Not which goalie lasted the longest without falling off, but which goalie was better? And it's not like Lundqvist had a short career of being great. He was one of, if not the most consistent goalie through-out that time. How does his stats play out without a rebuild / trading off players? No idea. The team was done and Lundqvist was quite frustrated with the direction. I was looking forward to seeing what he could do in Washington but we never got that opportunity.

Except luongo aging better than Lundqvist does matter when talking about who was better, considering at age 38, Luongo had the 3rd highest save percentage in the league, and as a 37 year old was top 5 in sv%. These 2 seasons are a part of Luongo's prime, and when we are comparing their prime, Luongo has 2 more top 10 sv% finishes, as well as higher SV% finishes than Lundqvist.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

It's Lundqvist but they were 1-2 for their generation so it's not like that's a slight on Luongo.

 

[Kupo]

Except luongo aging better than Lundqvist does matter when talking about who was better, considering at age 38, Luongo had the 3rd highest save percentage in the league, and as a 37 year old was top 5 in sv%. These 2 seasons are a part of Luongo's prime, and when we are comparing their prime, Luongo has 2 more top 10 sv% finishes, as well as higher SV% finishes than Lundqvist.

Luongo played 5 more seasons than Lundqvist. He broke into the league at 18. Henrik didn’t come over from the SHL until he was 23.

Also, Lundqvist stayed in NY when Gorton blew up the roster for their rebuild. The Rangers were a dumpster fire those last few years whereas Luongo was playing on a competitive Panthers team.

I’m curious to see how their analytics compare.

 

[Gentle Man]

Luongo played 5 more seasons than Lundqvist. He broke into the league at 18. Henrik didn’t come over from the SHL until he was 23.

Also, Lundqvist stayed in NY when Gorton blew up the roster for their rebuild. The Rangers were a dumpster fire those last few years whereas Luongo was playing on a competitive Panthers team.

I’m curious to see how their analytics compare.

Yeah but did you see the teams Luongo had when he first started? He was a part of the dark....DARK.... OMEGA DARK Ages of Florida that is 1999-2010

The fact Luongo put up those kind of numbers behind a complete DUMPSTER of a Florida team is actually really f***ing amazing ..

Those teams were really....really...REALLY bad.

.931 save percentage on a 75 point team

Look at that roster. LOOK AT IT LOL


Luongo was only a member for 2 decent teams for Florida.

14-15 (non playoff) and 15-16. Thats it.

 

[Luongoisthegoat]

Yeah but did you see the teams Luongo had when he first started? He was a part of the dark....DARK.... OMEGA DARK Ages of Florida that is 1999-2010

The fact Luongo put up those kind of numbers behind a complete DUMPSTER of a Florida team is actually really f***ing amazing ..

Those teams were really....really...REALLY bad.

.931 save percentage on a 75 point team

Look at that roster. LOOK AT IT LOL


Luongo was only a member for 2 decent teams for Florida.

14-15 (non playoff) and 15-16. Thats it.

I have no idea who any of those guys are LOL. Except a couple. Only started watching hockey in 2011. Must be a roster of horrible players.

 

[CokenoPepsi]

Yeah but did you see the teams Luongo had when he first started? He was a part of the dark....DARK.... OMEGA DARK Ages of Florida that is 1999-2010

The fact Luongo put up those kind of numbers behind a complete DUMPSTER of a Florida team is actually really f***ing amazing ..

Those teams were really....really...REALLY bad.

.931 save percentage on a 75 point team

Look at that roster. LOOK AT IT LOL


Luongo was only a member for 2 decent teams for Florida.

14-15 (non playoff) and 15-16. Thats it.

Dead puck era.

The King also played his prime in a much tougher division

 

[Gentle Man]

Dead puck era.

The King also played his prime in a much tougher division

Dead team era