Speculation: Lundqvist 50% retained

[TGWL]

He retires a rag.
Number retired.
Legendary hair, also retired.

Hopefully he retires a Ranger and not a rag.

 

[HBK27]

Ideally he prefers to go chase a cup.
However, if he really does not wanna leave otherwise, this is a situation where politics makes strange bedfellows.
Numbers can be made to work.

Think NY wants and gets a sweetener tho on top of cap relief.

In what world do the Rangers get ANY value for Lundqvist, even if they do eat half his salary?

He's not a starter anymore. His stats are awful this year - .907 SV% & 3.12 GAA, which is right about where they were last season as well. He's getting badly outplayed by a pair of 24 year olds, including one that's putting up phenomenal stats, so it's hard to say Hank's poor numbers are due to being on a bad team.

What team is going to take a risk and invest at least $4.25MM in cap space on the chance that Lundqvist really isn't as bad as his numbers suggest, especially as he turns 38 in a few weeks?

They either have to trade Georgiev and let Lundqvist mop up next season (which would hurt a team that may have a chance at the playoffs) or buy Lundqvist out, which is probably their best move.

 

[Machinehead]

I promise you that I will eat @Machinehead pubes if Hank waives for the f*cking Debbies.

Wont.never.ever.happen.

No you won't.

 

[MagicalRazor]

Georgiev for a second?

Pretty sure if the price was a second he would have been a leaf

 

[Siddi]

No you won't.

My body my ch...

Oh, nevermind.

 

[HawkeyTalkMan]

This isn't speculation.

^THIS
^IS
^NOT
^SPECULATION

 

[Leonardo87]

I promise you that I will eat @Machinehead pubes if Hank waives for the f*cking Debbies.

Wont.never.ever.happen.

What pubes?

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

In what world do the Rangers get ANY value for Lundqvist, even if they do eat half his salary?

He's not a starter anymore. His stats are awful this year - .907 SV% & 3.12 GAA, which is right about where they were last season as well. He's getting badly outplayed by a pair of 24 year olds, including one that's putting up phenomenal stats, so it's hard to say Hank's poor numbers are due to being on a bad team.

What team is going to take a risk and invest at least $4.25MM in cap space on the chance that Lundqvist really isn't as bad as his numbers suggest, especially as he turns 38 in a few weeks?

They either have to trade Georgiev and let Lundqvist mop up next season (which would hurt a team that may have a chance at the playoffs) or buy Lundqvist out, which is probably their best move.

In fairness to Lundqvist, he's been better than his numbers suggest. And the team was dog shit for most of the season. There's lots of GSAA stats and other charts showing looking deeper into it past basic boxcar stats that he's actually been quite good.

The team's underlying metrics have been much better the past month or so and Lundqvist has only gotten two starts in that time so he really hasnt had a chance to benefit from them playing better. Georgiev had worse stats until recently when he got a few starts behind the team playing better.

Drop Lundqvist behind a good team right now and he's still be good. He's not vezina Hank anymore but he's definitely still an above average goalie.

 

[ShelbyZ]

What about the Avs?

Reluctantly moves from the now rebuilding original 6 team he's been with his whole career, Avs get eliminated in the WCF, comes back for another year and they win the Cup, then he hangs them up and gets his number retired by both teams.

 

[Fire Rangers Mods]

This is value of and not speculation


Has there been any idea floated of him being moved?

Value of we know is fairly low. The question is what contending teams are interested.

 

[jimmysheva]

Adam Werner and a 7th for Lundqvist (50% retain)

 

[TBF1972]

To finally make Rangers and Canadiens fans realize the actual value of their goaltenders, let's discuss a trade of Price for Lundqvist. Who adds what?

 

[TBF1972]

Why would either team do this? NJ isnt competing for the next 2 years, so Schneiders contract isnt that big of a burden. Then NYR sell lundquist without getting any assets back, the only thing they get is cap relief for 1 year in a year they wont hit the cap? Makes no sense.

Hank would probably retire before something like this came to fruition.

It makes a ton of sense for NJD. Schneider is signed for two more seasons and it is highly unlikely he will ever be a competent NHL goaltender again. Paying him 6 million for two more AHL seasons does nothing for the Devils and nothing for Schneider. The buy out next summer would lessen the cap hit to 8 million equally stretched over four seasons. Trading for Lundqvist would result in a 8.5 million cap hit for one season, in which the Devils shouldn't get close to the upper limit and an actual salary of 5.5 million, which would be lower than the buyout amount of Schneider. Lundqvist might even be the goaltender, which would work well in a platoon with Blackwood. So Devils should do this.
For the Rangers it's a little more complicate decision. But with the Shattenkirk buyout hitting them at 6+ million next year getting rid of 6.5 million cap hit (by acquiring Schneider and buy him out for Lundqvist) could solve some of the cap crunch next season, but would add two millions of buyout money to the following three years. It all depends on their plans for the summer. If they desire to keep Georgiev and their RFAs and UFA or bid for UFAs of other teams, shedding Lundqvist's salary from the cap is the easiest way to make the needed room under the salary cap.

 

[TBF1972]

If he would waive for a trade it would be for a contender chasing the cup not for the freaking Devils.

I promise you that I will eat @Machinehead pubes if Hank waives for the f*cking Debbies.
Wont.never.ever.happen.

Nobody goes to the Devils if they can help it, Hank isn't going to waive for a spot on another rebuilding team. The purpose would be to get rid of Hanks salary, not take on Schneiders.

Serious question: Do you get flaming or trolling warnings for those posts or not?

I get warnings for trolling, if I mention a f..... C......n team as a reply to 'trade maginnon'.