Proposal: Lucic for Abdelkader

[82Ninety42011]

Why exactly is Detroit doing this without an added incentive? Abby makes less and wears an A. Also im assuming he's well liked in Detroit by team and fans. So take a likeable player and trade for a past prime slow as quick sand player who makes more?? Sorry I don't don't understand why Detroit would even consider this without an incentive added such as pick coming with Lucic.

 

[Flukeshot]

Not sure why Detroit would be willing to take on more money.

Also this is a proposal not speculation

 

[The List Of Jericho]

Why is this speculation?

 

[Henkka]

Not sure why Detroit would be willing to take on more money.

Also this is a proposal not speculation

Because of the incentive and opening cap space for becoming seasons. That cap space will be so big, that Lucic isn't a CAP problem for us until the contract will end.

Would also be interesting for our team indentity to have player like Lucic. Abdelkader is poodle nowadays.

Why exactly is Detroit doing this without an added incentive? Abby makes less and wears an A. Also im assuming he's well liked in Detroit by team and fans. So take a likeable player and trade for a past prime slow as quick sand player who makes more?? Sorry I don't don't understand why Detroit would even consider this without an incentive added such as pick coming with Lucic.

Please stop wondering things, and suggest an incentive. Make the trade work.

What I've read from our boards, Abdelkader is the most hated contract/player we currently have and many guys have wanted Ken Holland's head to be cut off because of that.

 

[LarKing]

We’ll happily take Lucic off your hands for a 1st.

 

[Lunatik]

What I've read from our boards, Abdelkader is the most hated contract/player we currently have and many guys have wanted Ken Holland's head to be cut off because of that.

So, your solution is to trade him for the worst contract in the league. Brilliant

 

[Henkka]

So, your solution is to trade him for the worst contract in the league. Brilliant

What would it change in the big picture for next 4 years? What would be worse?

If we get some incentive for the future? Would that hurt us?

 

[go4hockey]

Imo, adding 2 millions for next 4 years is not a problem. There will be lot of cap space during these years, and the contract will end when the new kid core will need their raises.

I've done those calculations and know this ****.

Also, NMCs tend to disappear, if the player once agreed to void it.

So what’s in it for the Wings beside the extra money they have to spend. They would not do this just for the hell of it they would need something from Edmonton to make it worth their while. And even then no one wants Lucic he does not fit in to today’s style of play.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

A speculation or a wish from Oilers fans?

 

[ShelbyZ]

What would it change in the big picture for next 4 years? What would be worse?

If we get some incentive for the future? Would that hurt us?

If the Red Wings turn it around in that 4 years and the new CBA drops the salary cap but doesn't afford teams a compliance buyout or two, they're going to wish they had that other $1.75M back...

 

[Lunatik]

What would it change in the big picture for next 4 years? What would be worse?

If we get some incentive for the future? Would that hurt us?

you literally never said anything about incentive in your OP, you just said swap them.

Also, Lucic has a NMC and will cost a protection slot in the draft or will need to be bought out in the summer of '21. That buyout will cost whomever owns his rights $6,666,667 ... to put that into perspective, to buyout Abdelkader this summer would only cost $5,083,333... that is without even factoring in other $10 million Lucic would make next year before getting bought out.

Even if the Oilers offered their 1st plus Lucic for Abdelkader, is a 1st really worth $11.5 million in actual dollars?

 

[ToDavid]

Detroit adds $1.75 million in salary and gets absolutely nothing in return. The only reason Lucic looks marginally better is because you stretched back three seasons to include the last time Lucic played anything resembling good hockey.

 

[Henkka]

Detroit adds $1.75 million in salary and gets absolutely nothing in return. The only reason Lucic looks marginally better is because you stretched back three seasons to include the last time Lucic played anything resembling good hockey.

Same has been said about Abdelkader. Pavel Datsyuk was the main reason for his good years and contract.

This is hilarious.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Why is this speculation?

I speculate that this thread will be closed shortly.

As others have said, unless something juicy is going to Detroit with Lucic, there is no chance Detroit would do this.

 

[ToDavid]

Same has been said about Abdelkader. Pavel Datsyuk was the main reason for his good years and contract.

This is hilarious.

I didn't say Abdelkader is any better. They're both on bad contracts but Abdelkader is $1.75 million cheaper so why make the trade?

 

[BStinson]

Same has been said about Abdelkader. Pavel Datsyuk was the main reason for his good years and contract.

This is hilarious.

What is so funny about this? We’ve already helped Edmonton fire Chiarelli now we are doing more favors for nothing? You should be able to tell by the pole now that this is an absolute horrible idea especially considering all of the neutral fans input.

 

[innitfam]

Why does Detrot do this 1for1? They know Edmonton is desperate to unload Lucic

 

[Henkka]

Why does Detrot do this 1for1? They know Edmonton is desperate to unload Lucic

What about an incentive? Said thousand times on this thread.

Edmonton buys salary cap space from Detroit for next 4 years.

How much would you be ready to pay of that?

 

[lilidk]

Aby should end his pro hockey in GR

 

[innitfam]

What about an incentive? Said thousand times on this thread.

Edmonton buys salary cap space from Detroit for next 4 years.

How much would you be ready to pay of that?

Why does Detroit take on a higher cap hit for an inferior player?

Edmonton needs to send an asset out with Lucic. In this case, at least a good prospect.

 

[Sparkzuk]

For an unprotected 1st...maybe.

 

[TrufleShufle]

Why not put up a new poll, if you had to pick either player right now and add them to your team as they stand, who would it be? If it is more than 25% Luicic, maybe this would hold some weight. If not, why would anyone make this trade 1f1?

 

[Henkka]

Why does Detroit take on a higher cap hit for an inferior player?

Edmonton needs to send an asset out with Lucic. In this case, at least a good prospect.

So would you do it?

What would be that asset?

 

[Lunatik]

For an unprotected 1st...maybe.

Even then, it's not worth it.

Lucic's NMC essentially forces a buyout in the summer of 2021, or else he has to be protected in the expansion draft. So if a team acquired Lucic this coming offseason, they would literally pay $16,666,667 ($10,000,000 in salary, $6,666,667 for the buyout) for two years of service.

Abdelkader on the other hand, won't need to be protected, he makes almost $2 million less per year and a buyout will cost a fraction of the cost because of the bonus structure.

 

[koyvoo]

Detroit needs to be heavily compensated to take on Lucic’s contract. The opportunity to dump a cheaper contract on a better player isn’t nearly close to that compensation.