Salary Cap: Look Sharp! I've had my Phil of rumors. I'd like to Oshie a trade already. Nail it,JR

[Riptide]

Liked this part of the Gazette story.

Penguins officials spoke with representatives of several impending free agents while they were in south Florida for the NHL draft late last week. Although Rutherford declined to identify those players, Washington winger Joel Ward was one of them.

Those conversations apparently stemmed from agents reaching out to the Penguins who, at mid-week, hadn’t intended to conduct any such discussions.

“We initially hadn’t planned to speak with anybody,†he said. “But it ended up that we got a couple of calls and did speak to a couple of guys.â€

 

[Ally22]

And, thereby, his proximity to the hot dog stand.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

If we could get the Leafs to take back 2 of the following 3 (Kunitz, Dupuis, Scuderi) AND retain $2 million on Kessel's deal, well hell I'll drive Olli Maatta to the airport myself (may be hard since I'm in Montreal but what the hell!).

Barberio is an interesting name on the UFA list.

 

[thecore]

Would Parenteau be worth a look on a one year, extremely cheap deal like $1 million? I realize he's as blah as they come, but he's been productive with top guys. Kind of like Kunitz but without the physicality.

Not sure if he'd get more than that, though. He seems more likely to sign a 2.5/yr deal with a crap team or something.

 

[billybudd]

Your opinion is wrong.

He wasn't even qualified...

 

[The Greatest 101]

So can we say the leafs desperately want to move Phil the thrill now?Patience JR.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

I don't think it's a "need" but if they want to get top return on a guy not many teams are in on and they need to move it's the way to do it.

They would then also have to beat what was reportedly a very solid offer in DP+Sutter/KK+ the 2016 first (and taking on Scuderi).

The long and short of it is, they ain't getting that package above plus Maatta. At this point it is obvious. How much more than the package above is a team going to give? At some point Toronto is going to be stuck with him if they keep that up. We have seen teams play this game in the past and usually they end up losing.

 

[Riptide]

Probably except for Boston, every team in the NHL has improved more since the end of the season than the pens to some extent. Other than luckily, acquiring two
3rd draft picks, nothing of a positive note has happened. Look at the rosters of the CAPS, NYRs, NYis, BJs and the FLYS are on the rise and tell me the pens are better.

Flyers: No major moves made.
Caps: No major moves made, and will lose players this summer.
NYR: Some minor moves made, will lose players this summer.

Not sure how you can say every single team improved. Some have, however many have stayed pat so far. FA might change things, but likely not enough to make a major difference to their rosters.

 

[66-30-33]

If we could get the Leafs to take back 2 of the following 3 (Kunitz, Dupuis, Scuderi) AND retain $2 million on Kessel's deal, well hell I'll drive Olli Maatta to the airport myself (may be hard since I'm in Montreal but what the hell!).

Barberio is an interesting name on the UFA list.

If Pens could somehow get Leafs to eat Kunitz and Scuderis cap hit and get 2 mill retained, we could go after Frolik and someone on defense like Green to help our PP, or someone else. I'm still not buying the 2 mill retained, it's for 7 years...SEVEN!!!

 

[Waffle Fries]

I would argue that the Rangers have gotten worse so far this summer.

 

[Jag68Sid87]

If Pens could somehow get Leafs to eat Kunitz and Scuderis cap hit and get 2 mill retained, we could go after Frolik and someone on defense like Green to help our PP, or someone else. I'm still not buying the 2 mill retained, it's for 7 years...SEVEN!!!

Exactly, hence my airport comment.

 

[thecore]

If Pens could somehow get Leafs to eat Kunitz and Scuderis cap hit and get 2 mill retained, we could go after Frolik and someone on defense like Green to help our PP, or someone else. I'm still not buying the 2 mill retained, it's for 7 years...SEVEN!!!

Can you strike a deal to retain for only part of the term, i.e. 2-3 years? Just asking. Probably not, but I don't know.

 

[cheesedanish87]

It could just be Eklund reading the Tweet from earlier and making this up to appear knowledgeable. I don't see how the Pens "need" the Leafs to retain that much. They would maybe like them to, but they don't need them to.

They want more teams to be interested in him, you get a much bigger market for Kessel at 6 million then 8 million.

 

[Asuna]

He wasn't even qualified...

I'm jk

 

[IcedCapp]

Despres isn't a Penguin anymore, they'd probably deny that he ever was.

big horse.

heh heh heh

 

[The Greatest 101]

They would then also have to beat what was reportedly a very solid offer in DP+Sutter/KK+ the 2016 first (and taking on Scuderi).

The long and short of it is, they ain't getting that package above plus Maatta. At this point it is obvious. How much more than the package above is a team going to give? At some point Toronto is going to be stuck with him if they keep that up. We have seen teams play this game in the past and usually they end up losing.

Toronto refused this package?I don't believe it.

 

[Pete Gas]

Doesn't Scuderi have an NMC anyways?

 

[The Greatest 101]

Can you strike a deal to retain for only part of the term, i.e. 2-3 years? Just asking. Probably not, but I don't know.

No,you can't.

 

[penguins2946*]

That wasn't the package. The package according to Rossi was Pouliot, Scuderi, Kunitz and a 2016 1st for Kessel. In the end, I'm expecting Sutter in for Scuderi and that to be the final deal if it happens.

 

[Winger for Hire]

Can you strike a deal to retain for only part of the term, i.e. 2-3 years? Just asking. Probably not, but I don't know.

No. If any part of the contract is retained, it's retained until the contract is bought out or completed.

 

[Waffle Fries]

Doesn't Scuderi have an NMC anyways?

Yeah. Shero lost his mind that last year. I don't know the details of it, I think there's a small group of teams he can refuse a trade to.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

That wasn't the package. The package according to Rossi was Pouliot, Scuderi, Kunitz and a 2016 1st for Kessel. In the end, I'm expecting Sutter in for Scuderi and that to be the final deal if it happens.

Scuderi was the dump, so it would be Sutter in addition to Scuderi in your hypothetical I would think.

 

[The Greatest 101]

That wasn't the package. The package according to Rossi was Pouliot, Scuderi, Kunitz and a 2016 1st for Kessel. In the end, I'm expecting Sutter in for Scuderi and that to be the final deal if it happens.

I think it's decent.Don't know what Toronto wants.

 

[penguins2946*]

Scuderi was the dump, so it would be Sutter in addition to Scuderi in your hypothetical I would think.

Nah, I think we wouldn't be able to include Scuderi in that and it would just be Sutter, Kunitz, Pouliot and a 1st for Kessel.

I think it's decent.Don't know what Toronto wants.

I think it's low, but it's not too far off.

 

[Ogrezilla]

101%

Is that some sort of fat joke?