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Link to Lockout II: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=56301755&posted=1#post56301755
Link to Lockout II: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?p=56301755&posted=1#post56301755
Tactics and optics-wise, asking for Fed mediators by the PA is a good move I think-nothing to lose by it.
I'm not sure what mediators would accomplish at this stage. Neither side seems to have any problems communicating what they want and mediation wasn't effective before.
I'm not sure what mediators would accomplish at this stage. Neither side seems to have any problems communicating what they want and mediation wasn't effective before.
The players will kill this season, this I am sure of.
The Toews' and Miller's of the union will kill the season and destroy the NHLPA.
The League will come back in the Summer and offer them 48 or 47% of HRR..or at least they should.
Really? I would think it would viewed more as a time-waster than anything else.
Fehr is loosing big time and he knows it. He wants top cover his sorry ass... I hope ALL the players would have a chance to vote on the last owner's offer. I am pretty sure 75% would accept it. THIS is democracy.
No, this is Fehr. He doesn't want to go so early, he wants to blow up the league like he did with the MLB. Fehr is not ready to go yet.
The owners will kill this season, this I am sure of.
The Jacobs and Leipolds of the NHL will kill the season and the destroy the NHL.
... never mind.
Squeezing in 60 games can be good motivation.
The players will kill this season, this I am sure of.
The Toews' and Miller's of the union will kill the season and destroy the NHLPA.
The League will come back in the Summer and offer them 48 or 47% of HRR..or at least they should.
They won't get 60 games, I would assume the owners know this. So they can kiss their 100% sponsorships good-bye.
Also, any leverage that the PA thinks they hold with this is all but gone, they get 75% of the cash if the play more than 41 games. So, create a 42 game schedule, get 75% of the sponsorships and pay 50% of the salaries.
Enough is enough with this **** show. It's time for both sides to swallow some pride and get things done.
There was an animated conversation in a hallway between Daly and Boston Bruins owner Jeremy Jacobs witnessed by reporters. Daly reportedly talked Jacobs out of leaving the meetings following a verbal confrontation with Buffalo Sabres goaltender Ryan Miller.
Miller, reached by email, said: "Really? I don't have any recollection of that or why [Jacobs'] opinion would be that."
With "make-whole," there were reports last night (one of them mine) that the NHL upped its offer from $211 million to $300 million. That's closer to the NHLPA's last known request of $393 million. But later, there was a catch -- that $50 million of it would be for pension funding. That's a tricky one and sure to annoy the players. Here's why:
Due to differing pension laws in the United States and Canada, players based in the U.S. can receive approximately $20,000 more per year in tax-free contributions from their clubs. It's a nice little selling point for the American squads because if you play north of the 49th, you lose a good chunk of that difference to taxes.
Also mentions that transition issues have yet to be discussed.Larry Brooks @NYP_Brooksie I have been told that's a significant factor, yes. @brianlawton9
Larry Brooks @NYP_Brooksie
NHL firm stance on 5 yr term limit reflects ownership belief that long term deals on books are liability regarding franchise sales
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Heres question confronting PA: Can players get better deal in 3,4 weeks if this falls thru and would it compensate for loss of further gms?
I think it is time for NHLPA members to call their union reps and ask for a vote on the latest proposal from the owners.
@Real_ESPNLeBrun Players from around the league have called into internal NHLPA meetings all day long... Crunch time. Big decisions being made on next step
Maybe you guys are forgetting this the business board. Can you try to make cogent business cases instead of littering this board with what passes for posts on the NHL Talk board?
Friedman on CBC believes that there are enough players wanting to vote on the NHL proposal to force the PA into action should the PA leadership fail to grab the opportunity to cut their losses.
The moderates usually outweigh the hardliners.
I was under the impression that players have been calling in to the internal PA meeting this entire day.
I would think so too. If you shake off the ghost of CBAs past and look at what is currently proposed it probably better than the CBAs of the other leagues and a ten year CBA will hopefully grow the game enough to purge the constant need for conflict.
I think if the players had a vote today, the owners proposal would pass.
Also mentions that transition issues have yet to be discussed.
Longterm contracts on books lower franchise values, per Brooksie's tweet/source. I suppose that is only an issue if you plan on selling the franchise over that term.
I would think so too. If you shake off the ghost of CBAs past and look at what is currently proposed it probably better than the CBAs of the other leagues and a ten year CBA will hopefully grow the game enough to purge the constant need for conflict.
I think if the players had a vote today, the owners proposal would pass.