Player Discussion Lias Andersson: Part II

[Inferno]

The breakways was in the preseason like 70 games ago. It's basically the 1 true moment of...flash...we can point to.
Brett howden scored a between the legs goal...and just overall had a terrific start to the season before falling off a cliff.

I thought lias' looked like he never made it up the cliff to fall off of it.

 

[Inferno]

Many fans have expectations that are way too high for a pick outside the top-3

I'll be THRILLED if lias' ends up like stepan.

 

[Crease]

Many fans have expectations that are way too high for a pick outside the top-3

And for others it's not about expectations but risk versus reward. Put another way, it's about drafting a forward with franchise potential. To invoke the old HF system, I would have preferred the Rangers take a 9C over a 7A with their first pick.

 

[Ori]

L. Brooks have similar thoughts as me concerning Lias. I believe he would benefit with more ice time in AHL at this point. He only had 9:22 TOI with both Kreider & Lemu out and 100% on face off this morning.

https://nypost.com/2019/03/12/rangers-will-remember-this-chris-kreider-disappearing-act/

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Lias isnt physically strong enough to play hi game at this level. Once he gets stronger he will be fine.

 

[Inferno]

Lias isnt physically strong enough to play hi game at this level. Once he gets stronger he will be fine.

Yep..particularly his lower body strength.

 

[ManUtdTobbe]

9 min TOI with 2 forwards ejected while having positive shot metrics, that’s just silly by Quinn.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I'm on my way to Calgary now to see Lias Andersson play. If Quinn scratches him for tomorrow's game, I'll hate Quinn forever

 

[Inferno]

9 min TOI with 2 forwards ejected while having positive shot metrics, that’s just silly by Quinn.

I feel like saying positive shot metrics is just a way of saying you can't really find much to talk about here... I mean he himself didn't have a shot on goal. Did he attempt any? I honestly don't remember. In a game where both teams did crap all offensively he still stood out to me as being. .not as good as everyone else.

I'm not surprised his toi was down...I'm sorry but the guy isn't doing anything... ANYTHING to deserve more toi.

I mean show me something....throw a big hit. Run the goalie trying to put a rebound home.. .win a battle know the boards and take a puck away, get to the open areas and take a high danger shot.

IMHO saying he had a positive shot differential while him basically contributing zero to that differential doesn't really say much.

 

[Machinehead]

I mean show me something....throw a big hit. Run the goalie trying to put a rebound home.. .win a battle know the boards and take a puck away.

We get five and a game if we do any of this stuff.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I feel like saying positive shot metrics is just a way of saying you can't really find much to talk about here... I mean he himself didn't have a shot on goal. Did he attempt any? I honestly don't remember. In a game where both teams did crap all offensively he still stood out to me as being. .not as good as everyone else.

I'm not surprised his toi was down...I'm sorry but the guy isn't doing anything... ANYTHING to deserve more toi.

I mean show me something....throw a big hit. Run the goalie trying to put a rebound home.. .win a battle know the boards and take a puck away, get to the open areas and take a high danger shot.

IMHO saying he had a positive shot differential while him basically contributing zero to that differential doesn't really say much.

Everyday, I become more convinced that Andersson’s value to this franchise is as a trade chip for an asset that better fits the puzzle.

 

[Inferno]

We get five and a game if we do any of this stuff.

Hahaha...I legit laughed out loud on this one lol

 

[Inferno]

I do wonder something...ppl talk about him not getting great linematrs to play with...but haven't all his linematrs vastly outproduced him? Should we maybe be thinking that a guy like boo isn't getting the linematrs to ply with because he's playing with lias'? I'm sure I'll get a ton of vitriol for saying that but it's worth a deeper dive look.

 

[Inferno]

Everyday, I become more convinced that Andersson’s value to this franchise is as a trade chip for an asset that better fits the puzzle.

Yeah. .I'm having trouble seeing who the target would be, but I agree.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Yeah. .I'm having trouble seeing who the target would be, but I agree.

I think he’s a potential piece in either a deal for Nylander or Trouba.

 

[haveandare]

If we’re going to go through this dramatic song and dance every time a kid needs some time to marinate, it’s going to be a long and painful rebuild.

This is going to happen more often than not - a player coming in and needing time to
get to the level people for some reason expected them to just suddenly jump in at.

 

[Inferno]

I think he’s a potential piece in either a deal for Nylander or Trouba.

I've never been a huge trouba guy.. nylander tho I'd love. Lias, pionk, kreider for nylander?

 

[Inferno]

If we’re going to go through this dramatic song and dance every time a kid needs some time to marinate, it’s going to be a long and painful rebuild.

This is going to happen more often than not - a player coming in and needing time to
get to the level people for some reason expected them to just suddenly jump in at.

But we all get that players need time. Chytil is still a disaster trying to beat 3 skaters every time. Buchnevich disappears for long stretches, howden was legit one of the worst nhlers in the league....

But the difference here, to me, is I just don't see any aspects of his game that impress me. That's my issue. The speed isn't a concern by itself. What is a concern is there's nothing else there...it's like...boo Nieves...there's nothing to his game at all but he does have size and speed...right now I personally don't see much from lias' tthat gives me hope that he'll be anything more than a 3rd liner at best

It's just hard to project him.

At least right now.

 

[Inferno]

I'm on my way to Calgary now to see Lias Andersson play. If Quinn scratches him for tomorrow's game, I'll hate Quinn forever

I'd be shocked if he plays tbh

 

[Ghost of jas]

I've never been a huge trouba guy.. nylander tho I'd love. Lias, pionk, kreider for nylander?

Toronto throws in a 3rd, but that’s the same proposal I posted a few days ago.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I'd be shocked if he plays tbh

If Kreider gets a game, he’ll play.

 

[Leonardo87]

9 min TOI with 2 forwards ejected while having positive shot metrics, that’s just silly by Quinn.

He’s not exactly doing anything to warrant him more ice time.

 

[Ghost of jas]

He’s not exactly doing anything to warrant him more ice time.

He has yet to earn the trust of this coach, and that’s troubling to me.

 

[Inferno]

He has yet to earn the trust of this coach, and that’s troubling to me.

Yeah because you'd think his game would play perfectly into what Quinn preaches...at least baeed on his scouting reports. But I'll be honest. .. if I was the coach, he would be back in Hartford

 

[RGY]

I feel like saying positive shot metrics is just a way of saying you can't really find much to talk about here... I mean he himself didn't have a shot on goal. Did he attempt any? I honestly don't remember. In a game where both teams did crap all offensively he still stood out to me as being. .not as good as everyone else.

I'm not surprised his toi was down...I'm sorry but the guy isn't doing anything... ANYTHING to deserve more toi.

I mean show me something....throw a big hit. Run the goalie trying to put a rebound home.. .win a battle know the boards and take a puck away, get to the open areas and take a high danger shot.

IMHO saying he had a positive shot differential while him basically contributing zero to that differential doesn't really say much.

100% agree.

He needs to do SOMETHING. Anything. Its not even about scoring points right now. Over and over again the play seems to die on his stick in the offensive zone. He looks a bit overmatched. If we had a better/deeper team he wouldnt be here right now. He does look physically weak compared to what is needed in the NHL. He looks a step behind. He looks late to the play constantly. He just isnt ready.

He should be in Hartford, but they are probably worried about destroying his confidence if they send him down again. He needs to train like he has never trained before this offseason. He is still young. He can get stronger and faster. He has talent. But if you arent fast enough to get to pucks first or strong enough to hold onto the puck then talent doesnt matter.