Post-Game Talk: Leafs Win 4:2! Hanta Yo!

[TheDoldrums]

I'm not sure the team has played one complete good game all season and other than Matthews few of the players are off to a good start.

Your standards are pretty high if the Winnipeg and Washington games weren't good enough.

 

[TheDoldrums]

are those guys important?

 

[Eb]

are those guys important?

Number 1 centres and goalies are overrated. Good thing we still have our #1 dman, oh wait

 

[ToneDog]

Our goaltenders will benefit and perform better after we fix our play in our end.

 

[zeke]

Looking at the analytics it seems like the marleau line got destroyed in this one. And iirc last game he played center the same thing happened.

Don't think we want to keep on playing him at C. We should probably move Willy there instead.

 

[zeke]

Our goaltenders will benefit and perform better after we fix our play in our end.

you think? Andy just had his best game of the year in one of our worst defensive performances.

 

[Mugzy97]

Leafs lose, post game thread = 589 posts
Leafs win, post game thread = 280 posts

Looks like the haters be floodin

 

[DarkKnight]

Our D zone coverage had been bad all year, and everybody but a few stragglers on here understand that.

 

[DarkKnight]

Lots of praise for Hyman on Leafs Lunch.

 

[ToneDog]

you think? Andy just had his best game of the year in one of our worst defensive performances.

On the flip side he has had more bad games than good with our defense. Thank the Gods they played the Wild last night and not the Lightning because if they had, the Stamkos line would have taken him to the woodshed like they did Martin Jones last night.

My point is that it is not always Andy's fault and for all those ripping his play he will not look as bad when we fix our play in our end.

 

[ToneDog]

Leafs lose, post game thread = 589 posts
Leafs win, post game thread = 280 posts

Looks like the haters be floodin

Leafs win and the sun comes up. Leafs lose and the sky is falling.

 

[MJ65]

Game in six minutes - courtesy Leafs TV

 

[MJ65]

Babcock post game - courtesy Leafs TV

 

[Kurtz]

Did you miss the 2nd goal against, where the shot was right in his chest and it popped out? Even Andersen was mad at himself at that one... so I'm not sure why we're excusing it when even he would agree that shouldn't have happened.

Those things happen to the best of goaltenders though. Not a big deal.

We're excusing it because when the goalie steals you the game and demonstrates exemplary rebound control on 30+ saves, it is idiotic to fault him for not catching one shot that came off his chest.

 

[Clark4Ever]

For the very first time since Matthews entered the league we got to see Hyman with 2 different players other than Auston and Willie on his line.

Hyman made a great play setting up Marleau for a goal, so at least now if nothing else we have a glimpse of what Hyman can do without Matthews and he did for Marleau what he does for his regular line.

Agreed. If I was Babs, I would just play Marleau with Hyman and Nylander until Matthews is ready to return.

 

[Mess]

Agreed. If I was Babs, I would just play Marleau with Hyman and Nylander until Matthews is ready to return.

Thought the Hyman -- Marleau -- Brown line was he most effective and impactful yesterday.

 

[PromisedLand]

I know I have never liked Bozak but honestly speaking what are his strengths other then face off circle?

may be:

• country music
• hunting channel
• good family man

It definitely isn't good pro, drive train, compete, etc...

 

[PromisedLand]

Now that Andersen is playing better is it safe to assume we were mostly losing because of him?

giving up chances from the slot in our own zone (high danger) and then blaming a goalie is never right

 

[MJ65]

I know Andersen was not that great in October but the fact is that our defensive coverage is awful and he is not getting a lot of support from 2nd and 3rd "D" units. This team has major flaws that need to be addressed and with this team we are probably going to make the playoffs but winning the division and going deep is not going to be a cake walk. We are getting out shot / out played almost every night and the teams are exploiting our defensive weaknesses

 

[Its not your fault]

Andersen steals us another 2. Those who love to criticize him, I hope you won’t shy away from giving praise where praise is due.

Either do or lose merit of their opinions.

 

[frizzer1]

Thought the Hyman -- Marleau -- Brown line was he most effective and impactful yesterday.

I don't disagree....so why not leave them together after Mathews comes back......?

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Thought the Hyman -- Marleau -- Brown line was he most effective and impactful yesterday.

That line is the line you hope you don't get matched up against. Hounded 24/7

 

[Bagge]

is your princess still an Australian? i remember before i left Australia, it was huge news that the prince married an australian. I should say huge news in australia probably not that big news there?

Mary, i think that was her name

Mary is going to be our queen some day, unless some minor revolution takes place and overrun the establishment and get rid of the monarchy.

 

[Polaris1010]

My point is that it is not always Andy's fault and for all those ripping his play he will not look as bad when we fix our play in our end.

Agree, because, lets look at this from another angle.

The garbage goals, the Leafs let in a lot of them, along with screen shot.

The California road trip and the last two home games, how many shots, did Andersen get beat on? Just straight shots, not deflections, screens, or rebounds?

That's 5 games he played, and straight shots that beat him, probably only 3 to 5 I think. The two home games, only one shot beat him straight, and seemed like everyone piled on top of him, including me, lol. That was the tying goal 3-3 against LV.

If he sees it, he lets in only 1 goal a game, that shot that beats him.

The deflections, the screens, and rebounds, that is all team play. Rebounds tend to be unpredictable, you do not know where it bounces.

How do the Leafs limit the screens, the deflections, the rebound goals?

Simple, reduce the shots on goal like you're saying. But they never do. Reduce the shots on goal, and there will be fewer deflections, screens, rebounds winding up behind the goalie.

The Leafs have two defenseman. The other team has three forwards. Logically, they will get shots on goal because your defense is outnumbered. Well duh, the forward is suppose to help out.

That is just not how it works in this forum. They will blame the goalie, then the defense.

 

[CanadasTeam]

Looking at the analytics it seems like the marleau line got destroyed in this one. And iirc last game he played center the same thing happened.

Don't think we want to keep on playing him at C. We should probably move Willy there instead.

My advise is for once stop looking so much at numbers -- don't you ever get sick of it? Enjoy the win and celebrate with friends over a drink, go outside. right now.