Confirmed with Link: Leafs trade Carter Asthon David Broll to Tampa for Pick

[Lobstertainment]

Further proof that Nonis is terrible at asset management.

Okay so it frees up space, guess there really wasn't anything better for them. Couple of AHL'ers would be pretty value-less.

But that'd keep us at 50 contracts though. Now we can trade players for prospects.

Would have prefered to have kept Aulie instead of trading him for useless cheating Ashton

 

[Bluelines]

So you understand we have 10 roster spots this summer that are open, 12 now with the deal that gave away 2 young players. So unless a deal is made to fill those rosters spots is made by the deadline. Creating 2 roster spots and not filling them, if this happens is bad asset management right?

Not at all , building a team is not done in a linear fashion. Dump two worthless players for a worthless pick and at the same time open up space for future moves, great move.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Just because a player is young, doesn't mean that he has value. Both of them were non-prospects. How many times is that need to be said?

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Not at all , building a team is not done in a linear fashion. Dump two worthless players for a worthless pick and at the same time open up space for future moves, great move.

Leafs have 10 expiring UFA's 10 RFA's that some will be re-signed, some traded, some not offered contracts.

That's 10 now 12 rosters spots that are guaranteed open. Add on the 10 RFA roster spots that offer even more flexibility. Leafs have 22 of 50 roster spots they can control this summer. Almost 50% of the pro roster. That's the reality of it.

 

[shelf]

Not at all , building a team is not done in a linear fashion. Dump two worthless players for a worthless pick and at the same time open up space for future moves, great move.

Its not a great move until what we see happens in the future. If Nonis ends up not even needing the extra 2 roster spots then that was a terrible trade. If Nonis ends up making trades(good trades) that require the 2 extra spots then it is a great deal.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Its not a great move until what we see happens in the future. If Nonis ends up not even needing the extra 2 roster spots then that was a terrible trade. If Nonis ends up making trades(good trades) that require the 2 extra spots then it is a great deal.

You got it, I will add it depends on what we get back also. Quality or roster fill ins. If it is just an exchange of mediocre for more medicore, than Shan-Du-Is traded 2 21-23 year old roster spots and filled them with more AHL'ers.

 

[Tak7]

The fact that the Leafs didn't appeal the Ashton suspension, despite the (bogus) respiratory story he provided, was suspicious. They've not been happy with him since, and they aren't now. Two failed prospects, creates two more roster spots for flexibility.

How is this even worth 15 pages worth of discussion?

 

[beleaf67]

The fact that the Leafs didn't appeal the Ashton suspension, despite the (bogus) respiratory story he provided, was suspicious. They've not been happy with him since, and they aren't now. Two failed prospects, creates two more roster spots for flexibility.

How is this even worth 15 pages worth of discussion?

there is not much else to talk about..

 

[Daisy Jane]

The fact that the Leafs didn't appeal the Ashton suspension, despite the (bogus) respiratory story he provided, was suspicious. They've not been happy with him since, and they aren't now. Two failed prospects, creates two more roster spots for flexibility.

How is this even worth 15 pages worth of discussion?

when you figure it out let me know.

 

[ACC1224]

Its not a great move until what we see happens in the future. If Nonis ends up not even needing the extra 2 roster spots then that was a terrible trade. If Nonis ends up making trades(good trades) that require the 2 extra spots then it is a great deal.

It's not black and white like that.

This is a very minor calculated move, neither great nor terrible.

Terrible would be if a deal was worked out that brought in 3 contracts for one and they had to add picks to move these plugs to free up the spots.

 

[Drew75]

Does anyone else find it hilarious that it's mostly the same people who are so ready to get rid of Kadri and Gardiner who are worried that we gave up the "prospects" Broll and Ashton?

 

[LaCarriere]

I can't believe two minor leaguers being traded can hit 360+ posts.

It frees up roster space for a possible trade deadline deal with Phaneuf or Kessel, instead of scrambling to find the roster space at the deadline. It's that simple.

Can't believe people are up in arms over a potential 4th liner. You can find those anywhere.

 

[Mess]

All prospects are suspects until proven otherwise.

As well as clearing out a couple of contracts to make space within the 50 max allowable I see it a house clearing and moving out the fake prospects in order to make room for the incoming real ones.

Leafs have what is considered one of the weakest prospects systems in the NHL and so this is a step to make room for improvement.

Neither Ashton nor Broll served any useful purpose in the organization and were not a part of future plans. They won't be the first nor the last that are shipped out once the overhaul of the prospect system gets underway.

 

[HeroNtF]

it would be a win even if it was just fpr signing johnson and bringing him over after season.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Waste of a pick (Broll). Draft based off of potential...always. No matter what round

 

[Duffman955]

Exxactly the type of blockbuster deal we needed to right the ship. Nothing but clear sailing from here on.

 

[stish]

The fact that the Leafs didn't appeal the Ashton suspension, despite the (bogus) respiratory story he provided, was suspicious. They've not been happy with him since, and they aren't now. Two failed prospects, creates two more roster spots for flexibility.

How is this even worth 15 pages worth of discussion?

Well, people like you asking this question are worth a couple of those pages.

 

[Bluelines]

Leafs have 10 expiring UFA's 10 RFA's that some will be re-signed, some traded, some not offered contracts.
That's 10 now 12 rosters spots that are guaranteed open. Add on the 10 RFA roster spots that offer even more flexibility. Leafs have 22 of 50 roster spots they can control this summer. Almost 50% of the pro roster. That's the reality of it.

Is that happing in the next 3 weeks?

 

[Bluelines]

Its not a great move until what we see happens in the future. If Nonis ends up not even needing the extra 2 roster spots then that was a terrible trade. If Nonis ends up making trades(good trades) that require the 2 extra spots then it is a great deal.

Sure it is , when you are boxed into a corner and have no flexibility and then are able to get it without giving up anything of value, that is a great job.

 

[theIceWookie]

I think I said this already, only if we add players in 2-1 or 3-1 deals before the deadline. Picks don't take roster spots, so we will see if a deal is consummated or not. We gave away 2 young players, something you have said you are against, so we better get back assets if this move was made to free up roster spots.

This trade is what it is: A nothing trade that has quite a limited downside. Making an issue out of it is the definition of turning nothing into something.

 

[wmark]

Exxactly the type of blockbuster deal we needed to right the ship. Nothing but clear sailing from here on.

I started to map out the parade route.

 

[MajorLeaf]

How is this even worth 15 pages worth of discussion?

It's 15 pages because this team has so many registered users on this board that it gets to 15 pages if 50% of the users post.

Also, some fans believe its the dominoes falling...it's all about the domino effect!!

 

[Tyler Biggs*]

Great idea. Trade all the younger players.

 

[Joey24]

Never a fan of Ashton, was a fan of Broll but in all honesty nothing that will come back to haunt Toronto imo. It's not like you're talking Nylander for a conditional pick or anything.

Broll has a potential to be a rugged 4th line bruiser one day but probably not much more then that. Freeing up spaces imo doesn't necessarily mean they have a trade in place.

It could just mean they are getting prepared for the trade deadline. I wouldn't get too excited seems like it's just a preparation move for the deadline.

 

[HoweHullOrr]

The point is, unless we fill the 2 empty roster spots this year. This deal was basically giving away 2 young players for nothing. Not sure how anyone here can claim this is a sign of great asset management via Shanahan.

And really to think about, 2 empty roster spots is good proactive management? Give me a break. Some of you folks are so eager to praise Shanahan.

Well its slim pickings when it comes to good news around here, so any little thing gets its moment in the sun. The other main topic to discuss of course is how effective our tank will be, but there's already numerous threads about that.