bansheebeat
Cherry-Coloured Funk
- Jul 31, 2011
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That is a real hard swallow he does after talking about Phil and Dion and saying no one is untouchable. The other thing I take from this is they are going to play the kids and see what they can do don't have to make the playoffs in the next couple of years just need to show improvement.
Pretty sure just about any team, who isn't in the early starges of rebuilding, will give up two undetermined first rounders for a 24 year old who finished 6th in scoring on a **** team last season.
Cant say Carlyle's system doesn't work. Some players are thriving and others are faltering. Kadri, Frattin, Kulemin, JVR all seem to be reviving themselves in his style of hockey, while Kessel, Grabovski, Macarthur, Bozak seem to be floundering. IMO if Kessel, Grabovski, Macarthur, Bozak can somehow be turned into a legitimate 1 center, this team will be much better off to play top 6 bottom 6. Most people dont believe Grabovski is a top 6 center on a contender, well i believe Kadri is and will be. I was watching some footage of Pete Deboer on Kadri. to summarize "kid is hungry, will go to the dirty areas, will be a game changer in the NHL. and last but not least, is an absolute beast in the playoffs."
JVR Weiss/Getzlaf/O'rielly/Stasny Lupul
Kulemin Kadri Frattin
Komarov McClement Ashton
Orr Steckel Mcclaren
I saw the interview on Sportsnet yesterday by Chris Simpson on Nonis and he does come across far more patient and willing to let the youth play and develop.
No quick fix attempts in the future and not willing to sacrifice youth to move the team ahead quickly as in the past.
His early moves of parachuting out Lombardi and Connolly to make room for Kadri and Frattin has paid big dividends early on in his new philosophy of building from within.
So the same as Burke then? It's funny that everything mentioned in the article matches what Burke said and did.
If that makes you feel better about it. Nonis says he's different than Burke but I guess we should take your word over his?
I find it funny now that Kadri is leading the team in scoring and seems to be the most dangerous Leaf along with Frattin on most nights. Take away his faceoffs and really he has played virtually no centre for the Leafs since being drafted and the guy is doing everything that can be asked.
I found it funny on TV last night Nonis made no promises to keeping Phaneuf and Kessel and said there are no untouchables on this team. Burkes method of building the team was from the net out and once can argue goaltending is an issue. Reimer seems to be coming around but more of a longer term approach. We have Gardiner and Reilly but really slim pickings for finishing near the bottom for the last five years.
I bet Nonis goes through the year and lets the team decide where they should be headed. Come trade deadline he will decide if he is a buyer or seller and guys like Phaneuf, Kessel, Grabovski and others will come up.
I believe we are sellers. There are some decent young players here but not top end talent. If I had to spend 7mil a year I would on Corey Perry-not Phil Kessel.
So the same as Burke then? It's funny that everything mentioned in the article matches what Burke said and did.
So the same as Burke then? It's funny that everything mentioned in the article matches what Burke said and did.
Pretty much. Everything done up until this point would have been done if Burke were still around.
Burke would never have admitted he failed by sending TC to the minors and to be honest who the **** cares what that loud mouthed arrogant fool would have done anyway . Had he not been fired he would have been in his 5th year with the club and the team still isn't anywhere near being a contender for anything other than a bottom seed playoff berth .
Burke was a failure and all your spinning and crying won't get the loser his job back so it's time to get over it and move on to discussing the players and the GM who are actually employed by the Leafs .
The hate is strong with this one. Not suprsing your posts have been minimized by Burke's dismisal, yet here you pop up when in a Burke thread. Milk has dried up a long time ago; time to let it go.
He's not hating at all, its just that anyone who analyzes and judges performance based on facts is glad Brian is not in charge anymore. That post just stated it emphatically.
From everything i knew about Burke before he came here, he assembled a damn soft team. He talked about truculence and testosterone yet his first major move was acquiring Kessel, probably one of the softest forwards in the game.
Liles, Bozak, Connolly. Are you freakin kidding me
What is this thread?
The "I supported Burke and looked really foolish when I tried to vilify other posters that didn't share my blind faith in the man's non-existant plan" Now I'm going to hate on everything the New GM does in a desperate attempt to not look so foolish after all.
80% of the posters on this Board have zero credibility as far as I am concerned.
And let’s be clear: It didn’t have to be that way. Brian Burke could have stood up on his first day on the job and said, “Look, things here are a mess, and I’m going to roll a grenade into the whole operation. It’s going to be ugly and it’s going be painful, and it will stay that way for at least a few years and maybe more. But stick with me and I’ll lead you through to the other side.” Maple Leafs fans would have followed him into that battle with smiles on their faces. He had that opportunity. He declined it.
What is this thread?
The "I supported Burke and looked really foolish when I tried to vilify other posters that didn't share my blind faith in the man's non-existant plan" Now I'm going to hate on everything the New GM does in a desperate attempt to not look so foolish after all.
80% of the posters on this Board have zero credibility as far as I am concerned.
Leafs fans would've followed Burke into that battle with smiles on their faces and started whining and calling for his head after the first loss.It's called 'spin'. A tactic used to avoid recognizing your own errors. Many people use it quite frequently on here.
Here's a perfect article on the failure of Brian Burke: http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/47108/brian-burke-fired-toronto-maple-leafs
Very well worth a read.
I love the truth of this:
Leafs fans would've followed Burke into that battle with smiles on their faces and started whining and calling for his head after the first loss.
What is this thread?
The "I supported Burke and looked really foolish when I tried to vilify other posters that didn't share my blind faith in the man's non-existant plan" Now I'm going to hate on everything the New GM does in a desperate attempt to not look so foolish after all.
80% of the posters on this Board have zero credibility as far as I am concerned.
Burke will be offered a job by the end of this season or the next.
It is time to move on Burke did not do as promised and the results bear that out.....Burke see you later and do not let the door hit you where the god lord split you!
Nonis has made room for younger player by sending away non performing players who added nothing to the team other then preventing players an opportunity to develop. His next few moves will give us a better idea of his plan. Thus far I'm impressed.
What is this thread?
The "I supported Burke and looked really foolish when I tried to vilify other posters that didn't share my blind faith in the man's non-existant plan" Now I'm going to hate on everything the New GM does in a desperate attempt to not look so foolish after all.
80% of the posters on this Board have zero credibility as far as I am concerned.