Proposal: Leafs- Isles

[Satan'sIsland81]

Being that Toronto has said they are looking for a cheap backup goalie, I wonder if there was anyway the Isles could entice them with a package of JF Berube + Bailey + either Dal Colle or next years first round pick for JVR. I feel like thats fair value, no? And the Isles would not only solve their first line wing and 3 goalie situations with one move, but also only add about one million in payroll while doing so. The leafs get a young backup goalie and shed a million in salary and get Dal Colle or a first round pick as compensation for taking on Bailey's salary. Thoughts?

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[LordNeverLose]

Not enough, but I think

MDC + JFB + Bailey +

is a decent idea. TML fans will ask for Pulock though, and that's a no go.

 

[StevenDean]

Being that Toronto has said they are looking for a cheap backup goalie, I wonder if there was anyway the Isles could entice them with a package of JF Berube + Bailey + either Dal Colle or next years first round pick for JVR. I feel like thats fair value, no? And the Isles would not only solve their first line wing and 3 goalie situations with one move, but also only add about one million in payroll while doing so. The leafs get a young backup goalie and shed a million in salary and get Dal Colle or a first round pick as compensation for taking on Bailey's salary. Thoughts?

I don't consider this as Bailey, Berube, 2017 1st but I instantly do it swapping the 1st for Dal Colle. Might tell you something though, I don't think either trade happens as either NY overpays or Toronto overpays.

 

[BEERnSOUP]

I like MDC, but I'd want a decent plus in addition to MDC. Not sure that's Berube. Maybe I'm undervaluing Berube but I don't think I'd look to fill the back up role in a JVR trade unless it was a throw/very small value addition rather than a decent piece of the value coming back. A back up can be signed/traded for cheaply without trading valuable assets.

Prior to the draft+FA the deal that was somewhat accepted, at least value wise, was 1st + MDC. I don't think this gets close to that and I also think the addition of Ladd at this point changes the Islander's willingness to give up significant pieces for a LW.

 

[TheCLAM]

Being that Toronto has said they are looking for a cheap backup goalie, I wonder if there was anyway the Isles could entice them with a package of JF Berube + Bailey + either Dal Colle or next years first round pick for JVR. I feel like thats fair value, no? And the Isles would not only solve their first line wing and 3 goalie situations with one move, but also only add about one million in payroll while doing so. The leafs get a young backup goalie and shed a million in salary and get Dal Colle or a first round pick as compensation for taking on Bailey's salary. Thoughts?

On behalf of all of Leafs nation..

I'd like to give this a no.

 

[StevenDean]

On behalf of all of Leafs nation..

I'd like to give this a no.

I have to ask as a Leafs fan. Why not? I see Dal Colle as a 6'3", potential 30 goal winger at 20 years old and completely cost controlled (his ELC still has 3 years left). Essentially Dal Colle is JVR just 7 years ago. Did I miss something in his development where I should be concerned? This feels like if we were offered the 6th overall pick (Tkachuk) and a decent replacement forward for JVR where we take it and run.

 

[JKG33]

If JVR is going to the Isles, Pulock better be a part of the package coming back

 

[LeafsNation149]

I have to ask as a Leafs fan. Why not? I see Dal Colle as a 6'3", potential 30 goal winger at 20 years old and completely cost controlled (his ELC still has 3 years left). Essentially Dal Colle is JVR just 7 years ago. Did I miss something in his development where I should be concerned? This feels like if we were offered the 6th overall pick (Tkachuk) and a decent replacement forward for JVR where we take it and run.

LOOOOL there's your answer. No one else does. Dal Colle barely got 30 goals in the OHL as an overager

 

[Otto91]

Being that Toronto has said they are looking for a cheap backup goalie, I wonder if there was anyway the Isles could entice them with a package of JF Berube + Bailey + either Dal Colle or next years first round pick for JVR. I feel like thats fair value, no? And the Isles would not only solve their first line wing and 3 goalie situations with one move, but also only add about one million in payroll while doing so. The leafs get a young backup goalie and shed a million in salary and get Dal Colle or a first round pick as compensation for taking on Bailey's salary. Thoughts?

As if The Islanders are in need of another Left winger...Not Happening!

Ladd/Chim/Prince/Kule/Lee...Dal Colle

Islanders are in need of a 2nd line right Winger not named Strome or Bailey!

And so if You might Find That right winger in Josh Ho Sang who Snow has been very impressed with in camp.

 

[Hally BlackWood]

if Toronto is trading jvr im guessing its going to be for a upgrade on defense. They have a surplus of forwards and a lack of quality defensemen

 

[Kent Nilsson]

Has Dal Colle fallen off that much ?

 

[Maximus74]

Watched MDC in Oshawa.. Hardly noticeable...

 

[Szechwan]

Has Dal Colle fallen off that much ?

Bad start to the year, then elite production after being traded.

His value has dropped to the keyboard warriors that look at total points, but to the GMs actually paying attention he's likely still valued in the top-ten draft pick range.

 

[Satan'sIsland81]

LOOOOL there's your answer. No one else does. Dal Colle barely got 30 goals in the OHL as an overager

He had issues in Oshawa last year. He had 27 goals in 30 games once going to Kingston. After getting 42 goals the year before. Come on.

 

[LeafsNation149]

He had issues in Oshawa last year. He had 27 goals in 30 games once going to Kingston. After getting 42 goals the year before. Come on.

I might have exaggerated, but anyone thinking Dal Colle will be a 30 goal scorer in the NHL is kidding themselves

 

[Hally BlackWood]

I might have exaggerated, but anyone thinking Dal Colle will be a 30 goal scorer in the NHL is kidding themselves

agreed he will struggle to hit the 20 mark.

 

[Satan'sIsland81]

if Toronto is trading jvr im guessing its going to be for a upgrade on defense. They have a surplus of forwards and a lack of quality defensemen

How about De Haan + Berube + 1st round pick for JVR?

 

[SLAPSHOT723]

If JVR is going to the Isles, Pulock better be a part of the package coming back

That's not going to happen.

The JVR ship has sailed now that we have Ladd.

 

[Hally BlackWood]

How about De Haan + Berube + 1st round pick for JVR?

I would probably do that.

 

[TOGuy14]

If the Leafs move JVR we would probably be looking for a young top 4 D, not a backup goalie package...

 

[Hally BlackWood]

That's not going to happen.

The JVR ship has sailed now that we have Ladd.

with what they paid ladd I would have to agree.

 

[MacerV]

Backup goalie for JVR is a bad place to start looking at a trade.

 

[seanlinden]

Acquiring a backup goalie is not going to be a consideration in a JvR trade, if he moves.

 

[PWJunior]

How about De Haan + Berube + 1st round pick for JVR?

We have a surplus of LW's already so we trade for another. How does that make any sense?

 

[WTFMAN99]

Backup goalie for JVR is a bad place to start looking at a trade.

Pretty much.

Any trade starts with Pulock. Most NYI fans don't want to trade this prospect for JVR, which is fine.

No real need for us to trade JVR at this time, especially if the concern is just over back up goaltending. Basically unless something significant comes back to the Leafs that can help us long term, we'll keep JVR.

I feel like any other fan base....JVR isn't even spoken about. He's a young 6'3 forward with speed and is good for 30/30 every year and he only makes 4.25M per year (2 more seasons).