Post-Game Talk: Leafs embarrass the pens and dubas, shut them down. WIN 7-0

[Evilhomer]

Which players were the fans hollering to trade?

They rhyme with Blathews, Blarner and Blylander. And don't forget Blavares.

 

[ACC1224]

Everyone making more than 6.8mm per year at one time.

None of those players listed were making anywhere close to that.

They rhyme with Blathews, Blarner and Blylander. And don't forget Blavares.

None of those players were on the list that you replied to.

 

[The Masters]

https://twitter.com/mrgrozz/status/1736762397178601849?s=20

 

[Evilhomer]

None of those players were on the list that you replied to.

Sorry, I didn't intend to respond to a list of players. I was just saying that his biggest impact will be the patience he displayed in not trading this team's best players after playoff losses when virtually the entire fanbase and media called for it.

 

[ToneDog]

What does this even mean? Pittsburgh finished last that season and it was Washington that won the draft lottery to take the first overall pick. And how were they gifted Letang when they picked him in the third round? I always find it so strange when people say that the league favours certain teams. The league favours Pittsburgh, yet it allow the franchise to file for bankruptcy...twice? Using any rational, objective measures, if the NHL was to favour any team, it would be Toronto and the Rangers, its two most valuable franchises.

IIRC Pens won the "special" Sid draft sweepstakes after the lockout.

* In 2003, the Pittsburgh Penguins obtained the Florida Panthers' pick in a trade. The Penguins selected G Marc-Andre Fleury first overall.

 

[Evilhomer]

IIRC Pens won the "special" Sid draft sweepstakes after the lockout.
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* In 2003, the Pittsburgh Penguins obtained the Florida Panthers' pick in a trade. The Penguins selected G Marc-Andre Fleury first overall.

Yes, they did, but the idea that the league cared where Crosby went, to the point of "rigging" it, is dumb. Or did the league also rig it the year prior to ensure that Washington got Ovechkin instead of Pittsburgh, even though Pittsburgh finished last overall that year? The truth is that people love to whine about Pittsburgh because that team won...a lot. Same reason that people whine about Tampa. It's what society does to winners when we deem them to have won too much. Up on that pedestal, and then back down again.

 

[ToneDog]

Yes, they did, but the idea that the league cared where Crosby went, to the point of "rigging" it, is dumb. Or did the league also rig it the year prior to ensure that Washington got Ovechkin instead of Pittsburgh, even though Pittsburgh finished last overall that year? The truth is that people love to whine about Pittsburgh because that team won...a lot. Same reason that people whine about Tampa. It's what society does to winners when we deem them to have won too much. Up on that pedestal, and then back down again.

Yeah you are always going to hear rigging theories. The NBA supposedly rigged the lottery so the Knicks could get Ewing. I would not put anything past the people who run both leagues but not going to whine about. It is too bad the NHL did not rig the McDavid draft so we could get him.

Oh yeah, some people think last year's draft was rigged so Berard could land in a big US market.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Was just checking the schedule and Leafs play Nucks on Jan 20, HNIC game and the game is at 7pm EST. LMAO

Nucks fans are gonna moan and bitch about it like crazy LOL

They should be used to it by now.

Though I don't get why Rogers doesn't demand Leafs @ Oilers for the HNIC game while Matthews and McDavid are in their primes.

 

[ACC1224]

Sorry, I didn't intend to respond to a list of players. I was just saying that his biggest impact will be the patience he displayed in not trading this team's best players after playoff losses when virtually the entire fanbase and media called for it.

Not listening to the fans is something all GM's would employ, not something that needs to be seen as an accomplishment, IMO.

(I don't think the 'entire fanbase' thought that anyway, I don't think even the majority thought that way.)

 

[bax]

I think this is easy: patience. Patience in not trading away some or all of the team's best players when 99% of the fanbase was hollering for it. He will be proven right as things play themselves out.


Serious progress?

99 percent?

 

[LeafEgo]

I think this is easy: patience. Patience in not trading away some or all of the team's best players when 99% of the fanbase was hollering for it. He will be proven right as things play themselves out.

That's faulty, whose to say we wouldn't have already won several cups if we went a different direction?

Anyways both GMs chose to keep the core Lou built. Dubie did a bad job of it (contracts) and partly why he was unable to build around them. Now Tre is trying - having a good go at it so far in spite of the mistakes made.

 

[al secord]

99 percent?

74% of people use percentages incorrectly, so I wouldn't put too much weight into his post.

 

[Jmo89]

Has anyone done wellness checks on the Dubists, awfully quiet?

Jonas if you're reading, it gets easier over time. Give it a few years bruh.

They've gotten strategic. Look closely and you'll see the early comparisons being drawn between potential trade targets and Dubas acquisitions (and ofc how the latter are so much better than the former.)

 

[IPS]

Yeah you are always going to hear rigging theories. The NBA supposedly rigged the lottery so the Knicks could get Ewing. I would not put anything past the people who run both leagues but not going to whine about. It is too bad the NHL did not rig the McDavid draft so we could get him.

Oh yeah, some people think last year's draft was rigged so Berard could land in a big US market.

Really too bad they couldn't rig the McDavid draft so he didn't end up in Edmonton.

 

[GoonieFace]

Yeah you are always going to hear rigging theories. The NBA supposedly rigged the lottery so the Knicks could get Ewing. I would not put anything past the people who run both leagues but not going to whine about. It is too bad the NHL did not rig the McDavid draft so we could get him.

Oh yeah, some people think last year's draft was rigged so Berard could land in a big US market.

If the NHL wanted to rig, than Matthews would be in Arizona right now, definitely not Toronto

 

[egd27]

Same reason that people whine about Tampa. It's what society does to winners when we deem them to have won too much

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you have issues about vegas getting preferential treatment in regard to cap circumvention last playoffs?

 

[Racer88]

74% of people use percentages incorrectly, so I wouldn't put too much weight into his post.

74% of people use percentages incorrectly, so I wouldn't put too much weight into his post.

And the other 87% known how to manipulate it.

 

[Apex Predator]

I use to think the draft lottery was rigged but after the Mcdavid and Matthews lottery I changed my opinion. If the NHL had there way there is no way those two are where they are right now.

 

[ULF_55]

Sorry, I didn't intend to respond to a list of players. I was just saying that his biggest impact will be the patience he displayed in not trading this team's best players after playoff losses when virtually the entire fanbase and media called for it.

The players making more than 6.8mm a year.

All of those guys have been trade targets.

 

[yubbers]

What's his track record like in building a resilient playoff team?

What was Dubas's?

We'll have to wait a few months and see.

 

[AcerComputer]

Really too bad they couldn't rig the McDavid draft so he didn't end up in Edmonton.

You're thinking of the NBA

 

[al secord]

What was Dubas's?

We'll have to wait a few months and see.

Asking about our current GM. Not a former GM. Let's hear about this resilient playoff team he's built.

It's one thing to obsess over a former GM. But to prop up someone who's been as incompetent as Treliving to attempt to prove your point is comical.

 

[notDatsyuk]

74% of people use percentages incorrectly, so I wouldn't put too much weight into his post.

58.6% of statistics are made up on the spot.

 

[hotpaws]

It was nice meeting you there.



What is the lasting impact from Dubas?

Seriously, asking.

All teams have prospects and players acquired by their GM's/staff.

Leafs appear to have some nice futures.
How those futures play out should be the determining factors.
Knies, Hildeby, Grebyonkin, Minten, Cowan ... is that it?
I'm referring to possible impact players.

Cowan belongs to Tre just like Sadin/Durzi belong to Dubas

his lasting impact , good question . not much which is pathetic after 5 yrs

 

[ULF_55]

Cowan belongs to Tre just like Sadin/Durzi belong to Dubas

his lasting impact , good question . not much which is pathetic after 5 yrs

Wasn't aware Dubas was restricted from being involved in the 2018 draft as he was already an employee.

Treliving was not permitted to be involved until after the 1st. round.

Regardless, the scouting staff do all the prep, GM probably only greenlights the pick.

Yeah, surprisingly very little progress made with regards to post season success.