Prospect Info: Leafs Board Prospect Ranking #20

[Schenn]

Hello all, I will make a thread everyday until we have determined the top 30 prospects according to Leaf fans on HFBoards.

Rankings:
1. Timothy Liljegren -- 78.7%
2. Andreas Johnsson -- 86.2%
3. Carl Grundstrom -- 49.6%
4. Rasmus Sandin -- 86.2%
5. Sean Durzi -- 26.8%
6. Jeremy Bracco -- 31.3%
7. Yegor Korshkov -- 40.1%
8. Calle Rosen -- 36.8%
9. Pierre Engvall -- 34.6%
10. Joseph Woll -- 30.5%
11. Eemeli Rasanen -- 37.5%
12. Igor Ozhiganov -- 23.2%
13. Semyon Der-Arunitsev -- 26.3%
14. Dmytro Timashov -- 32.3%
15. Filip Kral -- 29.3%
16. Fedor Gordeev -- 29.7%
17. Adam Brooks -- 29.7%
18. Trevor Moore -- 37.9%
19. Riley Stotts -- 26.3%
20.

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On The Docket:

Filip Kral
Kasimir Kaskisuo
Dakota Joshua
Miro Aaltonen
JD Greenway
Ryan O'Connell
Mason Marchment
Andrew Nielsen
Ian Scott
Mac Hollowell
Nikolai Chebykin
Pontus Holmberg
Vladislav Kara
Jesper Lindgren
Ryan McGregor
Semyon Kizimov

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Next on the List:

Martins Dzierkals
Zach Bouthillier
Eamon McAdam

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Past Results:


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[MyBudJT]

Chebykin, Kara, Lindgren, Joshua are all Top 20 prospects for me

My rankings:

Tier 1
1) RD Liljegren [1]
2) LD Sandin [4]
3) LD Dermott [NA]
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Tier 2
3) LD Borgman [NA]
3) LW Grundstrom [3]
4) RW Kapanen [NA]
4) LW Johnsson [2]
5) LW/RW Korshkov [7]
6) RD Rasanen [11]
7) G Woll [10]
8) RD Durzi [5]
9) Sparks [NA]
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Tier 3
9) LD Kral [15]
10) LW Engvall [9]
11) RW Bracco [6]
12) LD Gordeev [16]
13) C Der-Arguchintsev [13]
14) C Stotts [19]
15) LD Rosen [8]
16) LW/RW Chebykin
17) C/W Kara
18) RD Ozhiganov [12]
19) RD Lindgren
20) C Joshua
21) G Scott
22) LD O'Connell
23) LW Timashov [14]
24) RD Hollowell
25) C/LW Holmberg
26) G Zach Bouthillier
27) C Brooks [17]
28) LD Greenway
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Tier 4
29) LW Moore [18]
30) LW Marchment
31) RW Kizimov
32) C Aaltonen
33)G Kasimir Kaskisuo
34) LD Andrew Nielsen
35) C Ryan McGregor
36) LW Martins Dzierkals
37)G Eamon McAdam

 

[Warden of the North]

People are really sleeping on Marchment

 

[Boutette]

And again, I write in Brady Ferguson.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

People are really sleeping on Marchment

I love him, but I'm not sure what his upside is like. I'd be thrilled if he's our 4th line LWer though

 

[MyBudJT]

People are really sleeping on Marchment

I think it really comes down to prospect philosophy.

Marchment probably has a lower ceiling than some other prospects left on board, but he's probably also lower risk tat making it to the NHL.

 

[RoadWarrior]

Ferguson should be a write in

 

[Lauro]

Mac

 

[MagicalRazor]

Jasper lindgren one of babs favourite prospects , hes a horse and played really well in Europe hoping he makes a full time Marlies stint this year MY vote .

Ian scott crushed the combine on his draft year i'm pretty sure that's why we picked him

And nielsen i think hes the most proven out of these 3 but i think hes pretty much at his ceiling

 

[Walshy7]

FYI it says in “on the docket” fillip Kral he has already been selected @ #15

 

[4thline]

Super torn here
Marchment- Explosive development track
McGregor- great two-way, great playoff, good even strength scoring but no PP time
Lindgren/Hollowell- smooth skilled D
Chebykin- toolsy as hell
Kara- younger Russian Marchment (development wise)
Kizimov- better than either was at 17
Scott- dominant skillset but lacks consistency
Holmberg- swedish enigma primed to either play SHL or be a big factor in a freshly promoted alvenskan team

 

[MyBudJT]

Super torn here
Marchment- Explosive development track
McGregor- great two-way, great playoff, good even strength scoring but no PP time
Lindgren/Hollowell- smooth skilled D
Chebykin- toolsy as hell
Kara- younger Russian Marchment (development wise)
Kizimov- better than either was at 17
Scott- dominant skillset but lacks consistency
Holmberg- swedish enigma primed to either play SHL or be a big factor in a freshly promoted alvenskan team

LOL... I don't think this is accurate...

 

[4thline]

LOL... I don't think this is accurate...

Development wise in the sense that he's had a meteoric year to year rise from very humble on-ice beginnings
Kara
U16-Nobody playing locally pretty much within the Arctic circle
U17- Russian Junior B/ Slovakian Junior
U18-MHL Depth player
U19-MHL impact player/ VHL depth player
U20-VHL top-9 /KHL call up
U21-?

Marchment
U16-Nobody playing midget A
U18-Nobody playing Major Midget AAA
U19-Walk on tier 2A
U20-Walk on OHL
U21-Overage Impact player OHL
U22- ECHL +AHL callup
U23- Solid AHLer
U24- ...

 

[Once]

I like Lindgren.

 

[supermann_98]

I think the Lindgren vote comes from when he was drafted and people heard the Karlsson comparisons.

Marchment for me here all the way. The guy has done nothing but improve since his PTO at the rookie camp a couple years ago, not to mention he has pretty decent speed and some soft hands for a big guy. I think he’s gonna be an NHLer in a couple years, if not for us then somewhere else.

I don’t get that sense with Lindgren.

 

[daethfromabove1979]

Ian scott crushed the combine on his draft year i'm pretty sure that's why we picked him

How so? I’ve never heard of this from a goalie before.

 

[Damisoph]

Lindgren since #11

 

[uncleben]

Voted Marchment

Martins Dzierkals being massively underappreciated here though

Suprised Stotts won the last one.
Several on here I'd vote first

 

[MagicalRazor]

How so? I’ve never heard of this from a goalie before.

He was top 10 in 3 ? and i think he got 1st or second on the pressure plate Which is one of the hardest

Standing long Jump he got SECOND over all in 2017 Draft year and it was a blow out between 2'd and third he was .5 back from first.

Tied for 9th on wingspan

7th in vertical jump

And he finished quiet high in most Other events as well i can't find the exact result right now but i know he did really well in the combine .

Scott also went higher than Carrey price in the WHL draft i think he was the highest goalie ever

 

[stickty111]

I think the Lindgren vote comes from when he was drafted and people heard the Karlsson comparisons.

Marchment for me here all the way. The guy has done nothing but improve since his PTO at the rookie camp a couple years ago, not to mention he has pretty decent speed and some soft hands for a big guy. I think he’s gonna be an NHLer in a couple years, if not for us then somewhere else.

I don’t get that sense with Lindgren.

Then why wasnt't Lindgren voted in the top 5?
Maybe it comes from the fact that Lindgren has had 2 solid seasons in different leagues? That cant be it though.

 

[MyBudJT]

Development wise in the sense that he's had a meteoric year to year rise from very humble on-ice beginnings
Kara
U16-Nobody playing locally pretty much within the Arctic circle
U17- Russian Junior B/ Slovakian Junior
U18-MHL Depth player
U19-MHL impact player/ VHL depth player
U20-VHL top-9 /KHL call up
U21-?

Marchment
U16-Nobody playing midget A
U18-Nobody playing Major Midget AAA
U19-Walk on tier 2A
U20-Walk on OHL
U21-Overage Impact player OHL
U22- ECHL +AHL callup
U23- Solid AHLer
U24- ...

I’m sorry, I don’t see it! MAYBE similar up to their U17 years... Kara started playing against men in his U19 year, Marchment didn’t start playing against men until his U22 year.

They’re completely different players stylistically who play different ppsitions in different leagues...

Voted Marchment

Martins Dzierkals being massively underappreciated here though

Suprised Stotts won the last one.
Several on here I'd vote first

Is Dzierkals even under contract anymore? Stotts’ U18 season was much better than Any season Marchmrnt had until his U21 year...

 

[96]

I’m gonna assume Nielsen was top 5 and top 10 the last two years?

 

[LeafGrief]

Voted for Lindgren before I read any posts or saw any results. Solid defensive prospect who was drafted as a project and has been developing well. Afaik, he was one of the best defenders on his Finnish team last year. Don't think he's close to the NHL yet, but he's a legit prospect and would play a solid defensive game.

 

[uncleben]

Is Dzierkals even under contract anymore? Stotts’ U18 season was much better than Any season Marchmrnt had until his U21 year...

Alright, I admit my post sounded way too absolute and definitive.
I'm usually one to temper expectations good and bad on prospects, bc there is so much up in the air with them

But I made my bed so time to lay in it..!

Dzierkals is not on contract, but we retain his rights. He was a solid Solar Bear last year, fun to watch, but I feel like being in the ECHL just made him drop of most's radars. Not a world-beater but should be in the poll, imo.


Marchment and Stotts.
I would not have put Marchment ahead of Stotts in March's U18. But we're not looking at his U18, or U19, or U20. Marchment is an old prospect but he has shown work ethic and commitment this past year that is hard for me to ignore. Again not a world-beater, likely no NHL flash to his game, but he's a hard working energy player that I can see blooming into a late-start NHL game.

Stotts I just don't see making the NHL. Of course, I'd rather be wrong than right, but well before we drafted him, I just didn't see much that stood out to me (in my admittedly small sample size I saw).
He's not small! But he's not big either...
He can move across the ice and keep with the pack! But won't beat anyone out in a foot race...
He can handle the puck on his stick! But I would not say he has hands...
He'll get back when the puck goes the wrong way! But I wouldn't put him as a defensive go-to...
He understands the game! But he doesn't think 3-4 steps ahead like a game breaker...
He's got a decent shot! But he doesn't use it a whole lot...

Check this gif...
i.imgur.com/cc51Ooa.gifv

He he's not streaking anywhere, he doesn't move his hands all that much, doesn't pull a fancy move... and yet he beats the D, beats the goalie and scores. That's Riley Stotts in a nutshell to me.
And maybe that's exactly all we need from him, not all players need to be fancy specialists, and we should want some middle-of-the-pack, well-rounded guys. But I have concerns of, 'if that's where he is now, can it translate to a higher level league?'


Again, I wouldn't have given March a second look when he was Stotts' age, so obviously there is still hope, and most of the voters here seemed to have more hope than I do, so that's a good sign, but that's where I am right now
He just doesn't stand out to me.

 

[WildcatMapleLeafs28]

Nielson