Line Combos: Leafs 3rd Line Centre 2020-21Season??

nuck

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Alex Kerfoot looked good in the playoffs

If we move on from him, i'd like to add a grittier more defensive minded 3C like Lowry/Bennett/Coleman/etc

Listening to Fan 960 Calgary they are speculating if the X draft was tomorrow it would be Bennett that would be exposed. That doesn't suggest he would be a costly get and his cap hit is $1M less than Kerf.
 
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Wafflewhipper

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That doesn't mean we need to put literally everything on them. There is enough money to improve our defense and not completely decimate our bottom 6.
The bottom six are skilled, no bang for your buck and not any effect on the game physically for the most part. They didn’t score either. Bottom 6 doesn’t and shouldn’t mean to much of the same thing. Fir the Leafs it’s to much of the same skill players with not much leadership beyond Spezza and Clifford. The rest were pretty weak. This team needs savvy defensive forwards that bang and forcheck hard and score a bit too. Thats whst it looked like anyways. Kappy is already gone and i think the best player on that third line.
 

Wafflewhipper

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Listening to Fan 960 Calgary they are speculating if the X draft was tomorrow it would be Bennett that would be exposed. That doesn't suggest he would be a costly get and his cap hit is $1M less than Kerf.
Can’t say i agree with them nuch.
 

Artorius Horus T

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I'd like to see Eric Staal as the Leafs 3C in 2021-22.

Then you'd have 4 x 1st line centers.....lol.
2 x current and 2 x former.

You'd be the biggest joke in the NHL, like ever.
- no offence

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Career highs:

Matthews : (1st overall pick)
goals : 47
points : 80

Tavares : (1st overall pick)
goals : 47
points : 88

Staal : (1st overall pick)
goals : 45
points : 100

Spezza* : (2nd overall pick)
goals : 34
points : 92

* if you bring back Spezza
 

Srsly

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I’m not ready to give up on Kerfoot as he was one of the few Leafs I was happy with in the playoffs. I’m interested in seeing what he can do while healthy over the course or a full season prior to selling him for pennies on the dollar. We can always address the position at the deadline should he flounder.
 

Coachcorner

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A faceoff winna skill would be key, cause our first two centers will not be playing much PENALTY KILL.

We will keep on losing these if ain't paying attention to detail fools. Yes we need specialists like hitters and faceoff men and toughness. Admit it already gm dubas. Our last sires knew it, now you should too. :clap:
 

moon111

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Alex Kerfoot looked good in the playoffs

If we move on from him, i'd like to add a grittier more defensive minded 3C like Lowry/Bennett/Coleman/etc

Kerfoot hit a higher rate then Muzzin. Blocked the same amount of shots as Hyman, Gauthier, Engvall, Johnsson, Robertson,
Nylander, Mikheyev, Kapanen and Clifford... combined. Lets be honest, the Leafs lost their vets, saw how many holes and question
marks they had and just went into the playoffs to see what they had. Are you going to bring it or not? Kapanen? Just isn't impressing
so he's gone. Kerfoot? You ask them to contribute, he gave 110%. His plus/minus ended up being a zero. Which might actually
be further along then Tavares who, if you take their PP time away, usually dig a hole for their team in the playoffs. Kerfoot wasn't
a problem. Even scoring wise, he ended up with one less point then Nylander and Marner.

I agree the Leafs needing more tough components, but there's players like Engvall who didn't block a single shot, and had
a hitting rate 1/5th that of Kerfoot in the playoffs. If you're Marner, Robertson, Nylander... Be a bit chippy in the corners maybe,
but I'm not expecting them to Wendel Clark anyone. But if you're a fringe 3rd/4th liner... you've got to bring it hard.
Robertson, Engvall, Johnsson, Gauthier, Mikheyev, Clifford... at best, they're promises for the future because currently they
didn't deliver.
 
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qqaz

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Kerfoot does a good enough job for a reasonable enough price. I like him, and was impressed with him in the play-in. I think he'll endear himself to the fanbase a bit more if he has a healthy season, instead of the broken jaw/face cage business that tanked his numbers.

The replaceable one right now is Johnsson. He could disappear and it wouldn't hurt the team. Let him flourish somewhere else. Here he's just playing 5th fiddle on a roster full of talented wingers.

Kerfoot is decent as a C (way better than when he played wing, IMO), can get you 40 points, and looked like a committed PK guy in the play-in for Keefe. You can't easily replace that for less than 3.5 million.
 
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Nylander88

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I think Kerfoot will be given another chance at 3C. And Johnsson will get moved to clear cap space. As well as Freddy. Kerfoot actually looked good between the two lanky guys. Not sure if anyone remembers the little stint there of Engvall-Kerfoot-Mikheyev...but it was definitely serviceable and defensively responsible. Most excited to see who we add on D and what changes are made in between the pipes
 
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JT AM da real deal

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I have no problem with Kerfoot against skating teams like Habs he looks like a very good centre. However against teams like CBJ, Bruins and Canes though he should not even be on da ice as he is badly outpowered. He has no ability to break through a trap system at all.

We have enough scoring to outscore the skating/skilled teams but we need a 3C who can help us get through a bigger positionally strong trap team that forces you to bust up their centre ice trap. This is not just on Kerfoot but our top 4 guys don't have that skill either so it must comes from lower in lineup.

Our 3rd and 4th lines need to be filled with guys who can penetrate da trap.
 
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Dreakmur

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Kerfoot does a good enough job for a reasonable enough price. I like him, and was impressed with him in the play-in. I think he'll endear himself to the fanbase a bit more if he has a healthy season, instead of the broken jaw/face cage business that tanked his numbers.

The replaceable one right now is Johnsson. He could disappear and it wouldn't hurt the team. Let him flourish somewhere else. Here he's just playing 5th fiddle on a roster full of talented wingers.

Kerfoot is decent as a C (way better than when he played wing, IMO), can get you 40 points, and looked like a committed PK guy in the play-in for Keefe. You can't easily replace that for less than 3.5 million.

Kerfoot is paid fairly for what he brings. The question is, with out cap situation, can we afford to have that on the third line?

I think we're better off with a worse 3rd C and using the money saved on defensemen.
 
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Srsly

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I have no problem with Kerfoot against skating teams like Habs he looks like a very good centre. However against teams like CBJ, Bruins and Canes though he should not even be on da ice as he is badly outpowered. He has no ability to break through a trap system at all.

We have enough scoring to outscore the skating/skilled teams but we need a 3C who can help us get through a bigger positionally strong trap team that forces you to bust up their centre ice trap. This is not just on Kerfoot but our top 4 guys don't have that skill either so it must comes from lower in lineup.

Our 3rd and 4th lines need to be filled with guys who can penetrate da trap.
Eh, he was one of our more effective players against Columbus in the play-in. I think a lot of what you observed may have had to do with some hesitance while returning from and attempting to play through an injury. He has the ability to turn it in against those difficult to play against teams and didn’t even look out of place on the penalty kill.
 
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JT AM da real deal

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Eh, he was one of our more effective players against Columbus in the play-in. I think a lot of what you observed may have had to do with some hesitance while returning from and attempting to play through an injury. He has the ability to turn it in against those difficult to play against teams and didn’t even look out of place on the penalty kill.
I don't put it on Kerfoot as he is one of almost an entire team of guys who do not have what it takes to tough it out through a trap game and win. We have to build a lineup that can beat Canes CBJ and Bruins in a small ice trap game. Much like Tampa did with Coleman Gourde and Goodrow. They just overpowered CBJ and Bruins. 3rd lines win in playoffs. Having Hedman helps too. and Vasi of course.
 

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