LD Artyom Duda - Toronto Metro Univ., USports (2022, 36th, ARI)

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[JasonDemersWasOkay]

First KHL point in his second game. Getting around 9 minutes of TOI

 

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[Kshahdoo]

Probably there is no place on the main team so they let him go. I bet it will be different story with Michkov...

Will Duda play in the AHL?

 

[Kipper933]

Interesting, he's headed to the NCAA to play for the University of Maine:



Maine will be adding Duda, the Nadeau brothers, Nadeau's teammates Ryan Hopkins, and Russian goalie Platon Zadorozhny next year.

 

[William H Bonney]

I hope he gets cleared if only to help turn that Maine program around. They were such a dominant program from the late 80s to mid 2000s and it would be great to see them as a powerhouse again.

 

[SomeDude]

It would be great to get him over here. Wouldn't the NCAA have to basically declare the KHL is not a pro sports league, though? I don't know how he could be eligible.

 

[William H Bonney]

It would be great to get him over here. Wouldn't the NCAA have to basically declare the KHL is not a pro sports league, though? I don't know how he could be eligible.

They won't do that. But they would have to grant him an exception. I'm not sure what details they're working out but the last 2 CHL guys to be granted exceptions were done in error by the NCAA and they just decided to not rectify their mistakes. How you make that error is beyond me, let alone doing it twice in 5 years. I think they're more lenient with European leagues, largely because they don't want to encourage kids to go to the CHL knowing they could just come back to college later, and it's the kids going to Euro leagues aren't top NCAA targets anyway.

 

[SomeDude]

They won't do that. But they would have to grant him an exception. I'm not sure what details they're working out but the last 2 guys to be granted exceptions were done in error by the NCAA and they just decided to not rectify their mistakes. How you make that error is beyond me, let alone doing it twice in 5 years.

That sums up the NCAA pretty nicely, actually.

 

[Kshahdoo]

It would be great to get him over here. Wouldn't the NCAA have to basically declare the KHL is not a pro sports league, though? I don't know how he could be eligible.

When you set your own rules will it actually be a problem?

 

[Steve Kournianos]

Nadeau and Duda on the same PP. Big recruiting scores.

 

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[Caser]

This likely isn't true, since his contract is a KHL contract with options to be assigned to the MHL and VHL. Still the NCAA have their own definition of the pro contracts and I guess the KHL ones are not included in that, as guys like Iskhakov, Sardaryan and Borodayenko all were playing there after terminating a KHL contract.

 

[TF1970]

NCAA just makes rules up as they go apparently these days. bunch of horseshit.

 

[Hogan20]

Have had some loose conversations with people associated with the UMaine program, here's the brief summary:
- The HC (Ben Barr) has been in contact with Duda since back in January trying to convinced him to come to Maine.
- Duda himself has been on campus since the end of May now taking some English intensive courses to try and prepare for the upcoming season.
- Nothing official from the NCAA regarding his eligibility yet but they didn't think he would've been announced if they weren't confident in him being eligible.

 

[SomeDude]

Have had some loose conversations with people associated with the UMaine program, here's the brief summary:
- The HC (Ben Barr) has been in contact with Duda since back in January trying to convinced him to come to Maine.
- Duda himself has been on campus since the end of May now taking some English intensive courses to try and prepare for the upcoming season.
- Nothing official from the NCAA regarding his eligibility yet but they didn't think he would've been announced if they weren't confident in him being eligible.

I'm interested on the connection of how this even became a possibility. Just seems so out of left field.

 

[Caser]

I'm interested on the connection of how this even became a possibility. Just seems so out of left field.

It depends on what do you mean by "this" here. If you mean a player coming to the NCAA after the KHL contract, then previously there were already cases of Ruslan Iskhakov and other Russian guys (Borodayenko, Sardarian etc.), as well as some guys from the SHL if I understood correctly. If you mean coming to the NCAA while having an active KHL contract then I think only IIHF-related leagues and the NHL care about that, not NCAA.

 

[SomeDude]

It depends on what do you mean by "this" here. If you mean a player coming to the NCAA after the KHL contract, then previously there were already cases of Ruslan Iskhakov and other Russian guys (Borodayenko, Sardarian etc.), as well as some guys from the SHL if I understood correctly. If you mean coming to the NCAA while having an active KHL contract then I think only IIHF-related leagues and the NHL care about that, not NCAA.

I am meaning Duda specifically and to Maine. I don't remember hearing any rumblings about Duda having any interest in anything other than staying in Russia until eventually coming over to try to make the NHL. Do college coaches just routinely call Russian players to try to coax them over or what?

 

[Caser]

I am meaning Duda specifically and to Maine. I don't remember hearing any rumblings about Duda having any interest in anything other than staying in Russia until eventually coming over to try to make the NHL. Do college coaches just routinely call Russian players to try to coax them over or what?

Probably there was some non-public interest from Duda expressed to his agent and maybe also to the Coyotes management and if so there wouldn't be any issues with providing his number to that coach.

 

[SomeDude]

Probably there was some non-public interest from Duda expressed to his agent and maybe also to the Coyotes management and if so there wouldn't be any issues with providing his number to that coach.

Maybe he just wants to get acclimated to playing in a college rink before playing for the Yotes.

 

[canary]

Is Artyom not playing this season? Injured? Something to do with his commitment to Maine?

EDIT: Nevermind, can see he's been training at UMaine trying to finalize his transfer.

 

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[Pavel Buchnevich]

This guy has been very poorly advised. How he signed a KHL contract and then thought he could play NCAA is terribly naive.

Should fire his agent.

 

[lanky]

Coyotes have been at his side throughout this saga. Good on them for trying to help him get what he wants. But shame on them for letting him waste so much development time.

 

[Kshahdoo]

This guy has been very poorly advised. How he signed a KHL contract and then thought he could play NCAA is terribly naive.

Should fire his agent.

Yeah, that's what people want to change in Russia and not players going to NHL...