Gurglesons
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No. They are King’s fans that don’t overreact about a bad stretch of games on one of the worst teams in the league when judging a player’s career.
Confirmed Trade: [LAK/PIT] Tanner Pearson for Carl Hagelin (6.25% retained)
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No. They are King’s fans that don’t overreact about a bad stretch of games on one of the worst teams in the league when judging a player’s career.
There is a reason why they are the worst team in the league, Pearson (and many others) are that reason. This isn’t a bad stretch of games, this has been brewing for quite a while now.
Pearson isn’t a bad player he just became irrelevant and a nonfactor. His absence won’t really effect LA all that much.
LA players are so ingrained with a defense first don’t make mistakes mentality that I think creativity suffers. He is likely a 20-20-40 player at his best. He may find that again in Pitt. I still think his best asset now is front net presence and dirty work when he is on his game.
Good luck to him honestly.
Gurglesons
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If your team is so dependent on Tanner Pearson that he is the reason you are the worst team in the league, maybe that says more about your team than it does Pearson..
I guess you didn’t read the ‘and many others’ part.... He is a part of the
Problem, not the only problem.
Gurglesons
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No. I just don’t really get the point. People always tend to make these overreactions.
Pearson will likely be his typical 30-40 pt self with maybe a slight uptick in production since he is playing with Sid or Malkin.
It’s not an over reaction and I’m not wishing anything but the best for Pearson, however, look at his production this year as a 2nd line player, look at his production since March of last year, it’s a problem. This is several months of poor production, not a bad stretch of games or an over reaction as you say.
Jaded-Fan
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The trouble is the unrealistic expectations regarding production in today's NHL.
There are 434 forwards getting paid to play for NHL teams. 14 Forwards x 31 teams.
40 points last year, which is what Pearson netted despite going dry from March onward, puts Pearson with only 144 players who had more points.
2017-18 NHL Hockey Stats and League Leaders - Points - National Hockey League - ESPN
Two thirds of forwards getting paid to play in the NHL had fewer points. More actually as some players only played part of a season.
Goal scoring is similar. Only 162 players had more than Pearson's 15 goals. So only one third of the league.
2017-18 NHL Hockey Stats and League Leaders - Points - National Hockey League - ESPN
People here have a very very skewed view of what is decent production these days.
kingsfan28
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That's exactly what it is. When they flip Haglen for a pick in March it will be complete. 3.75 off the cap for next season is a win.
kingsfan28
Its A Kingspiracy !
If he does that with the Kings, it will still be more than Pearson has had in two seasons.
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Turin
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Hagelin has 21 goals in his last 172 games.
Pearson has about double that without playing with Malkin. I’m not hating on Hags, I love Hagelin even when he doesn’t score most of the time.
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I think Kings win just because they unload 12 million in cap. Pearson is slow, soft, and average offensively .
The Kings will say this trade was done to "shake up the team" and to "add speed" to the roster. Which are technically true, but the real reason for the trade (i believe) is that Hagelin is a UFA at the end of the year where Pearson is on the books for another 2 years after this.
It basically opens up money come July.
It makes sense for both teams. Kings get out of one of their several long term deals which opens space from the cap as well as future openings for the Kings prospects. And Pens get a little younger, a little cheaper (after this year) and little more snarl to play along side any of Crosby, Malkin, Brassard, or Sheahan.
It basically opens up money come July.
It makes sense for both teams. Kings get out of one of their several long term deals which opens space from the cap as well as future openings for the Kings prospects. And Pens get a little younger, a little cheaper (after this year) and little more snarl to play along side any of Crosby, Malkin, Brassard, or Sheahan.
biturbo19
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Kinda funny it's not the first time the Pens have made a "shakeup" trade involving Hagelin and a California team. But it's a deal that seems like it could work out for both teams.
The Kings get a bit more speed and hustle, and maybe a bit more of a spark there. And they get a guy who they can trade at the deadline as a rental and have that space opened up for the coming years, where it's clear they need to do some retooling...despite a plethora of significant contracts on the books with term.
The Pens get a guy who could have the hands and goal-scoring touch to change up their roster composition a bit, and complement whichever of Crosby/Malkin who are built to elevate the production of a guy with Pearson's skillset. And if it does click reasonably well...they've got him locked in at a manageable salary for a while and don't have to worry about that aspect.
The Kings get a bit more speed and hustle, and maybe a bit more of a spark there. And they get a guy who they can trade at the deadline as a rental and have that space opened up for the coming years, where it's clear they need to do some retooling...despite a plethora of significant contracts on the books with term.
The Pens get a guy who could have the hands and goal-scoring touch to change up their roster composition a bit, and complement whichever of Crosby/Malkin who are built to elevate the production of a guy with Pearson's skillset. And if it does click reasonably well...they've got him locked in at a manageable salary for a while and don't have to worry about that aspect.
keslerburrows
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Kings get older, but they get faster. It can be argued that they need team speed more than youth.
I think that neither player is worth the money. Pearson's been just horrible this season. If he finds his old groove, perhaps he could be worth it. If not, Pens are stuck with a 4mil anchor for 3 more years.
I think that Kings probably won the trade because they got less term back. But of course, if Pearson returns into the 40 point player he can be, then that's a win for Penguins - But might still not be a loss for Kings in the case Pearson wouldn't have gotten the form back with them. At least as long as they're able to flip Hagelin for something tangible at the TDL.
I think that Kings probably won the trade because they got less term back. But of course, if Pearson returns into the 40 point player he can be, then that's a win for Penguins - But might still not be a loss for Kings in the case Pearson wouldn't have gotten the form back with them. At least as long as they're able to flip Hagelin for something tangible at the TDL.
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Top 6 caliber LW to be w net front presence and do the dirty work with Malkin and Kessel? Yes I believe he will slot in nicely. Losing Hags and his speed is unfortunate but Pearson is a better fit for what the Pens need right now.
Hagelin is ass offensively so this does absolutely nothing to fix LA's scoring issues.
Pearson had rough go of it in the last...like 15 months but i'm starting to wonder if something systemic is wrong with LA. Kopitar has only 6 points, their depth outside of Kovalchuk and Carter is garbage. The fact they continually run a scrub like Iafallo on their top line should be exhibit A of how badly that team is constructed. Not to mention questionable coaching.
Watch Pearson go back to being a solid 40-50 point guy and make this trade look even worse.
Pearson had rough go of it in the last...like 15 months but i'm starting to wonder if something systemic is wrong with LA. Kopitar has only 6 points, their depth outside of Kovalchuk and Carter is garbage. The fact they continually run a scrub like Iafallo on their top line should be exhibit A of how badly that team is constructed. Not to mention questionable coaching.
Watch Pearson go back to being a solid 40-50 point guy and make this trade look even worse.
Honour Over Glory
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Enjoy your decade plus of being a basement team while you waste the best years of the only worthwhile player your team has in Kopitar.
uh. grats on being hockey's version of the San Francisco Giants, I guess? Let's see how many of your pink hat bandwagoners jump ship as soon as your team becomes garbage again.
