Confirmed with Link: Ladd, 2021 2nd Round pick 2022, Conditional 2nd Round Pick, 2023 Conditional 3rd Round Pick to ARI

[MJF]

Reading this thread title still makes me smile. Good riddance. f***ing Garth.

Amen.

 

[Wanderson]

Arizona is doing their best to be the worst team in the league. Ladd is playing. That means they met the conditions and we have to give up our 3rd round pick.

edit: Wrong

 

[Wanderson]

He scored, lol

 

[PK Cronin]

He scored, lol

He's always had a nose for the net. He just doesn't move well anymore.

 

[PK Cronin]

Arizona is doing their best to be the worst team in the league. Ladd is playing. That means they met the conditions and we have to give up our 3rd round pick.

That actually wasn't the condition of the pick, though it was a mess at the time when it was originally reported.

Per Capfriendly:

"The pick is not transferred to Arizona if Ladd:
1. Plays in any professional games in 2022-23 while under his current contract, or
2. Retires prior to the conclusion of the 2022-23 regular season"

 

[Wanderson]

That actually wasn't the condition of the pick, though it was a mess at the time when it was originally reported.

Per Capfriendly:

"The pick is not transferred to Arizona if Ladd:
1. Plays in any professional games in 2022-23 while under his current contract, or
2. Retires prior to the conclusion of the 2022-23 regular season"

Awesome! I think the ‘not’ wasn’t in the initial report

 

[PK Cronin]

Awesome! I think the ‘not’ wasn’t in the initial report

Yep.

If he plays any professional hockey without being bought out, in the AHL or NHL, the Islanders will not give Arizona the pick.
If he retires prior to the end of next season, the Islanders do not give the pick.

The only way Arizona is getting that pick is if he's injured and cannot play at all or is bought out and then continues to play elsewhere. I'm curious if Arizona will buy him out just to get the pick.

 

[IslesNorway]

Yep.

If he plays any professional hockey without being bought out, in the AHL or NHL, the Islanders will not give Arizona the pick.
If he retires prior to the end of next season, the Islanders do not give the pick.

The only way Arizona is getting that pick is if he's injured and cannot play at all or is bought out and then continues to play elsewhere. I'm curious if Arizona will buy him out just to get the pick.

They won't. If they can use him on the ice, that's better for them

 

[Throttle]

Ladd has more Goals than Wally.

 

[Lights911]

Ladd has more Goals than Wally.

Does he?

 

[Throttle]

Does he?

Well, obviously there’s about 5 days between these posts…

 

[doublechili]

Well, obviously there’s about 5 days between these posts…

In another 8 years or so it might be wrong about career stats too.

 

[Richie Daggers Crime]

Well, obviously there’s about 5 days between these posts…

No, no. He got you. Sick burn.

 

[boredmale]

I haven't really paid much attention to this but some good news

2023 NHL Entry Draft Transactions

Coyotes (conditional if Andrew Ladd appears in at least 1 game in 2022-23) PICK WOULD NOT TRANSFER BECAUSE LADD HAS NOT APPEARED IN 1 GAME IN 2022-23 Traded • future considerations (?) to Islanders for • Andrew Ladd • 2021 second round pick (#59-Janis Moser) • 2022 second round pick (more favorable of Avalanche, Islanders picks) (#45-Mattias Havelid) • 2023 conditional third round pick (if Ladd appears in at least 1 game in 2022-23) (?-?) on 2021-07-17

 

[Mr Misunderstood]

I haven't really paid much attention to this but some good news

2023 NHL Entry Draft Transactions

Coyotes (conditional if Andrew Ladd appears in at least 1 game in 2022-23) PICK WOULD NOT TRANSFER BECAUSE LADD HAS NOT APPEARED IN 1 GAME IN 2022-23 Traded • future considerations (?) to Islanders for • Andrew Ladd • 2021 second round pick (#59-Janis Moser) • 2022 second round pick (more favorable of Avalanche, Islanders picks) (#45-Mattias Havelid) • 2023 conditional third round pick (if Ladd appears in at least 1 game in 2022-23) (?-?) on 2021-07-17

Seems like piss poor management by Arizona. Its not like they're good, so why wouldn't they play him for ONE game and bury him on the 4th line for 5:00 TOI?

Unless he outright declined to play which would be crazy to me too. Get that one last game in my friend!

I'm happy we keep the pick, of course

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

I haven't really paid much attention to this but some good news

2023 NHL Entry Draft Transactions

Coyotes (conditional if Andrew Ladd appears in at least 1 game in 2022-23) PICK WOULD NOT TRANSFER BECAUSE LADD HAS NOT APPEARED IN 1 GAME IN 2022-23 Traded • future considerations (?) to Islanders for • Andrew Ladd • 2021 second round pick (#59-Janis Moser) • 2022 second round pick (more favorable of Avalanche, Islanders picks) (#45-Mattias Havelid) • 2023 conditional third round pick (if Ladd appears in at least 1 game in 2022-23) (?-?) on 2021-07-17

Don't jinx it!!!

 

[Seph]

I haven't really paid much attention to this but some good news

2023 NHL Entry Draft Transactions

Coyotes (conditional if Andrew Ladd appears in at least 1 game in 2022-23) PICK WOULD NOT TRANSFER BECAUSE LADD HAS NOT APPEARED IN 1 GAME IN 2022-23 Traded • future considerations (?) to Islanders for • Andrew Ladd • 2021 second round pick (#59-Janis Moser) • 2022 second round pick (more favorable of Avalanche, Islanders picks) (#45-Mattias Havelid) • 2023 conditional third round pick (if Ladd appears in at least 1 game in 2022-23) (?-?) on 2021-07-17

Sadly, this was initially reported incorrectly and it's the other way around. The pick does not transfer if Ladd plays a pro game this season or retires before the season ends. Since he likely won't play a game or retire, the pick will transfer. Oh well, still assets well spent, IMO.

 

[Osakahaus]

Sadly, this was initially reported incorrectly and it's the other way around. The pick does not transfer if Ladd plays a pro game this season or retires before the season ends. Since he likely won't play a game or retire, the pick will transfer. Oh well, still assets well spent, IMO.

So we don't have our 1st or 3rd correct?

 

[Seph]

So we don't have our 1st or 3rd correct?

Correct. Also no 3rd in 2024.

 

[boredmale]

Sadly, this was initially reported incorrectly and it's the other way around. The pick does not transfer if Ladd plays a pro game this season or retires before the season ends. Since he likely won't play a game or retire, the pick will transfer. Oh well, still assets well spent, IMO.

Report: Andrew Ladd's status unclear for 2022-23; draft pick implications for Islanders

A year ago, the Islanders rid themselves of the Andrew Ladd contract by sending the veteran forward to the Arizona Coyotes along with a 2nd round pick in 2021,

eyesonisles.com

Craig Morgan of PHNX Sports wrote last week, "The Coyotes still do not know whether veteran Andrew Ladd plans to play this season. Ladd has one more year remaining on his contract and his agent, JP Barry, said that Ladd will not make any decisions about his future until it is time to start ramping up his training later this summer."

If Ladd decides to retire, it will benefit the Islanders. If Ladd ends up playing for the Coyotes, that benefits the Islanders too. That's because the conditions of the 2023 3rd round pick are such, that the pick would be transferred to Arizona only if Ladd does not play professional games this season and doesn't retire.

This likely means a LTIR situation would be needed for the pick to be made by the Coyotes.

 

[PK Cronin]

So Ladd hates the Islanders.

 

[Osakahaus]

So Ladd hates the Islanders.

Crazy to think his contract ends in like a year.

 

[doublechili]

Crazy to think his contract ends in like a year.

Actually, it ends in a couple of weeks, no?

 

[danteipp]

Wait, I thought Ladd "failed" his physical with Arizona and was moved to LTIR before the season?

I find it laughable of course because he was able to play all of last season with Arizona, and even rode the buses in Bridgeport prior to that, yet can't play now.

I guess fishing in the off season is rougher than we thought.

Guy held up the Isles for years, refusing to go to LTIR when it was obvious he was physically cooked, yet helps out Arizona and goes quietly?

I wonder if Lou could have pushed the issue, by bringing in independent doctors and whatever else is required under the CBA to force Ladd to LTIR, but opted not to fight anymore and went for the trade?

F' Ladd.

 

[seafoam]

Dude owes Doug Weight a couple steak dinners.