News Article: Kyrou signs 8 year extension

[Davimir Tarablad]

when we sign him to a 8x8 contract and he plays like that

There's still plenty of blame to put on both players for not playing up to their abilities, but yea, let's completely pile on Kyrou.

 

[TheDizee]

hopefully tonight is his last game ever as a blue

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

Kyrou has scored a point in only 32 of 69 games this season and gone pointless in 37 games.

In these 37 games that he hasn't scored a point, he is a -29 plus/minus.

Are you under the impression that PPG players actually score 1 point each game?

 

[LGB]

I thought Kyrou played really well to close out the year.

 

[stl76]

I thought Kyrou played really well to close out the year.

Agreed.

But hey, some posters need attention, so this thread keeps getting bumped for no reason

 

[Brian39]

I thought Kyrou played really well to close out the year.

Really good 2nd half of the season overall.

January: Tied for 1st on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (5g and 6a in 13 games).

February: 2nd on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (5g and 5a in 11 games).

March: 3rd on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (6g and 5a in 15 games).

April: 1st on the team in goals and 2nd in points (6g and 3a in 7 games).

All in all, since January 1st he has 22 goals (1st on the team) and 41 points (2nd on the team) in 45 games, which is a 40 goal and 74 point pace. Looking at his full sample under Bannister, he played at a 39 goal and 77 point pace.

If he can do that over a full season (in combination with the level of defensive play he provided this season), then he is absolutely worth the contract. But he can't have 30 game slumps like the one he had to start this season. I think he played better than the numbers suggested in that stretch, but the final step he needs to take to be a true $8M player is finding a way to get himself out of cold shooting stretches quicker. If he can do that, then any other improvement to his game will start putting the contract into bargain territory.

Barring a 4+ goal night from someone else tonight, he's going to be the team's leading goal scorer for the 2nd season in a row. Barring a 3+ goal from anyone else tonight, he is also going to be the only Blue to hit 30 goals for the 2nd straight year.

Barring a disaster tonight where he gets caved in for a -20 (or more) differential in these categories, he's going to end the season with positive corsi, fenwick, shot, and scoring chance differential at 5 on 5. Unless he gets outscored by 8 goals tonight, he's going to positive in goal differential at 5 on 5 as well. His xGF% at 5 on 5 is slightly negative (49.58%) but still up over 6 percentage points from last year. All these numbers come with him getting sheltered a bit less than last year as well.

There was a ton of positive progress from Kyrou this year despite the dip in production that he cost himself with his first 30 games of the season.

 

[Drubilly]

Really good 2nd half of the season overall.

January: Tied for 1st on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (5g and 6a in 13 games).

February: 2nd on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (5g and 5a in 11 games).

March: 3rd on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (6g and 5a in 15 games).

April: 1st on the team in goals and 2nd in points (6g and 3a in 7 games).

All in all, since January 1st he has 22 goals (1st on the team) and 41 points (2nd on the team) in 45 games, which is a 40 goal and 74 point pace. Looking at his full sample under Bannister, he played at a 39 goal and 77 point pace.

If he can do that over a full season (in combination with the level of defensive play he provided this season), then he is absolutely worth the contract. But he can't have 30 game slumps like the one he had to start this season. I think he played better than the numbers suggested in that stretch, but the final step he needs to take to be a true $8M player is finding a way to get himself out of cold shooting stretches quicker. If he can do that, then any other improvement to his game will start putting the contract into bargain territory.

Barring a 4+ goal night from someone else tonight, he's going to be the team's leading goal scorer for the 2nd season in a row. Barring a 3+ goal from anyone else tonight, he is also going to be the only Blue to hit 30 goals for the 2nd straight year.

Barring a disaster tonight where he gets caved in for a -20 (or more) differential in these categories, he's going to end the season with positive corsi, fenwick, shot, and scoring chance differential at 5 on 5. Unless he gets outscored by 8 goals tonight, he's going to positive in goal differential at 5 on 5 as well. His xGF% at 5 on 5 is slightly negative (49.58%) but still up over 6 percentage points from last year. All these numbers come with him getting sheltered a bit less than last year as well.

There was a ton of positive progress from Kyrou this year despite the dip in production that he cost himself with his first 30 games of the season.

Wait a minuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute......it's almost like you're a professional fact checker n shit.

 

[Xerloris]

Really good 2nd half of the season overall.

January: Tied for 1st on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (5g and 6a in 13 games).

February: 2nd on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (5g and 5a in 11 games).

March: 3rd on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (6g and 5a in 15 games).

April: 1st on the team in goals and 2nd in points (6g and 3a in 7 games).

All in all, since January 1st he has 22 goals (1st on the team) and 41 points (2nd on the team) in 45 games, which is a 40 goal and 74 point pace. Looking at his full sample under Bannister, he played at a 39 goal and 77 point pace.

If he can do that over a full season (in combination with the level of defensive play he provided this season), then he is absolutely worth the contract. But he can't have 30 game slumps like the one he had to start this season. I think he played better than the numbers suggested in that stretch, but the final step he needs to take to be a true $8M player is finding a way to get himself out of cold shooting stretches quicker. If he can do that, then any other improvement to his game will start putting the contract into bargain territory.

Barring a 4+ goal night from someone else tonight, he's going to be the team's leading goal scorer for the 2nd season in a row. Barring a 3+ goal from anyone else tonight, he is also going to be the only Blue to hit 30 goals for the 2nd straight year.

Barring a disaster tonight where he gets caved in for a -20 (or more) differential in these categories, he's going to end the season with positive corsi, fenwick, shot, and scoring chance differential at 5 on 5. Unless he gets outscored by 8 goals tonight, he's going to positive in goal differential at 5 on 5 as well. His xGF% at 5 on 5 is slightly negative (49.58%) but still up over 6 percentage points from last year. All these numbers come with him getting sheltered a bit less than last year as well.

There was a ton of positive progress from Kyrou this year despite the dip in production that he cost himself with his first 30 games of the season.

Did you just try to bring facts to a dizee thread?

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

Really good 2nd half of the season overall.

January: Tied for 1st on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (5g and 6a in 13 games).

February: 2nd on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (5g and 5a in 11 games).

March: 3rd on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (6g and 5a in 15 games).

April: 1st on the team in goals and 2nd in points (6g and 3a in 7 games).

All in all, since January 1st he has 22 goals (1st on the team) and 41 points (2nd on the team) in 45 games, which is a 40 goal and 74 point pace. Looking at his full sample under Bannister, he played at a 39 goal and 77 point pace.

If he can do that over a full season (in combination with the level of defensive play he provided this season), then he is absolutely worth the contract. But he can't have 30 game slumps like the one he had to start this season. I think he played better than the numbers suggested in that stretch, but the final step he needs to take to be a true $8M player is finding a way to get himself out of cold shooting stretches quicker. If he can do that, then any other improvement to his game will start putting the contract into bargain territory.

Barring a 4+ goal night from someone else tonight, he's going to be the team's leading goal scorer for the 2nd season in a row. Barring a 3+ goal from anyone else tonight, he is also going to be the only Blue to hit 30 goals for the 2nd straight year.

Barring a disaster tonight where he gets caved in for a -20 (or more) differential in these categories, he's going to end the season with positive corsi, fenwick, shot, and scoring chance differential at 5 on 5. Unless he gets outscored by 8 goals tonight, he's going to positive in goal differential at 5 on 5 as well. His xGF% at 5 on 5 is slightly negative (49.58%) but still up over 6 percentage points from last year. All these numbers come with him getting sheltered a bit less than last year as well.

There was a ton of positive progress from Kyrou this year despite the dip in production that he cost himself with his first 30 games of the season.

But but but…he cried once!

 

[Linkens Mastery]

 

[Mike Liut]

Is Kyrou perfect? No, but he’s a hell of an offensive player.

 

[Robb_K]

Really good 2nd half of the season overall.

January: Tied for 1st on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (5g and 6a in 13 games).

February: 2nd on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (5g and 5a in 11 games).

March: 3rd on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (6g and 5a in 15 games).

April: 1st on the team in goals and 2nd in points (6g and 3a in 7 games).

All in all, since January 1st he has 22 goals (1st on the team) and 41 points (2nd on the team) in 45 games, which is a 40 goal and 74 point pace. Looking at his full sample under Bannister, he played at a 39 goal and 77 point pace.

If he can do that over a full season (in combination with the level of defensive play he provided this season), then he is absolutely worth the contract. But he can't have 30 game slumps like the one he had to start this season. I think he played better than the numbers suggested in that stretch, but the final step he needs to take to be a true $8M player is finding a way to get himself out of cold shooting stretches quicker. If he can do that, then any other improvement to his game will start putting the contract into bargain territory.

Barring a 4+ goal night from someone else tonight, he's going to be the team's leading goal scorer for the 2nd season in a row. Barring a 3+ goal from anyone else tonight, he is also going to be the only Blue to hit 30 goals for the 2nd straight year.

Barring a disaster tonight where he gets caved in for a -20 (or more) differential in these categories, he's going to end the season with positive corsi, fenwick, shot, and scoring chance differential at 5 on 5. Unless he gets outscored by 8 goals tonight, he's going to positive in goal differential at 5 on 5 as well. His xGF% at 5 on 5 is slightly negative (49.58%) but still up over 6 percentage points from last year. All these numbers come with him getting sheltered a bit less than last year as well.

There was a ton of positive progress from Kyrou this year despite the dip in production that he cost himself with his first 30 games of the season.

The eye test showed me significant improvement in his game this season. Unlike Dizee I wouldn't wish him gone unless he's traded for someone who will improve this team more.

 

[Robb_K]

hopefully tonight is his last game ever as a blue

Nobody can confuse you with someone who makes understatements or is wishy washy about his opinions. What return for him would you like to see in a trade (that is REALISTIC)? What will the Cap ramifications of that trade be?

 

[LogosBlue]

hopefully tonight is his last game ever as a blue

If he's as good as all these other posters say he is, we should get a pretty good return for him. I'm excited to see what we get.

 

[TheDizee]

The eye test showed me significant improvement in his game this season. Unlike Dizee I wouldn't wish him gone unless he's traded for someone who will improve this team more.

Brady Tkachuk

If he's as good as all these other posters say he is, we should get a pretty good return for him. I'm excited to see what we get.

They make my point so easy. He's so good according to them so we will have no problems getting a good haul back.

He's a clubhouse cancer and he needs a change of scenery. He and Krug MUST go before we can move on as a team.

 

[ezcreepin]

Brady Tkachuk


They make my point so easy. He's so good according to them so we will have no problems getting a good haul back.

He's a clubhouse cancer and he needs a change of scenery. He and Krug MUST go before we can move on as a team.

You have almost no argument against Kyrou besides just not liking him because he is a flashy offensive forward. He's drastically improved his defense this year and floats around much less than he did previously. Tarasenko was unbelievably lazy for a guy as big and strong as he was, yet he and Kyrou are stylistically very comparable. Few people were this adamant about trading Tarasenko then. And despite Kyrou having an awful start to the year, he has ended up with nearly 70 points and over 30 goals and providing, at worst, adequate defense.

Just do us all a favor and say you want him traded because you don't like him rather than parroting this argument that he is an awful player.

 

[Xerloris]

Brady Tkachuk


They make my point so easy. He's so good according to them so we will have no problems getting a good haul back.

He's a clubhouse cancer and he needs a change of scenery. He and Krug MUST go before we can move on as a team.

If he sucks so bad how is he getting Tkachuk?

Also, what proof do you have of him being a cancer?

 

[Reality Czech]

Really good 2nd half of the season overall.

January: Tied for 1st on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (5g and 6a in 13 games).

February: 2nd on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (5g and 5a in 11 games).

March: 3rd on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (6g and 5a in 15 games).

April: 1st on the team in goals and 2nd in points (6g and 3a in 7 games).

All in all, since January 1st he has 22 goals (1st on the team) and 41 points (2nd on the team) in 45 games, which is a 40 goal and 74 point pace. Looking at his full sample under Bannister, he played at a 39 goal and 77 point pace.

If he can do that over a full season (in combination with the level of defensive play he provided this season), then he is absolutely worth the contract. But he can't have 30 game slumps like the one he had to start this season. I think he played better than the numbers suggested in that stretch, but the final step he needs to take to be a true $8M player is finding a way to get himself out of cold shooting stretches quicker. If he can do that, then any other improvement to his game will start putting the contract into bargain territory.

Barring a 4+ goal night from someone else tonight, he's going to be the team's leading goal scorer for the 2nd season in a row. Barring a 3+ goal from anyone else tonight, he is also going to be the only Blue to hit 30 goals for the 2nd straight year.

Barring a disaster tonight where he gets caved in for a -20 (or more) differential in these categories, he's going to end the season with positive corsi, fenwick, shot, and scoring chance differential at 5 on 5. Unless he gets outscored by 8 goals tonight, he's going to positive in goal differential at 5 on 5 as well. His xGF% at 5 on 5 is slightly negative (49.58%) but still up over 6 percentage points from last year. All these numbers come with him getting sheltered a bit less than last year as well.

There was a ton of positive progress from Kyrou this year despite the dip in production that he cost himself with his first 30 games of the season.

When you look at his numbers overall it looks like he had a pretty decent season, but it's also true that he's extremely streaky and wasn't a consistent contributor this season. As you mentioned, he had a rough start to the season but he also had a stretch from mid February-mid March when he only had 2 goals, 7 points in 15 games that coincided with the Blues playoff hopes disappearing. He's done a great job padding his stats at the end of the season, but just three weeks ago his stats looked a lot worse. He didn't get it done when we needed him most, though you could also say that about most of our team. He looks like more of a complimentary piece to me than a true star player and I expect more out of a $8 million player.

I'm not giving up on him by any means but if he was traded I wouldn't be that upset, assuming we get good value back.

 

[Robb_K]

Brady Tkachuk


They make my point so easy. He's so good according to them so we will have no problems getting a good haul back.

He's a clubhouse cancer and he needs a change of scenery. He and Krug MUST go before we can move on as a team.

From where do you get that information? Do you have a close friend on the team, hidden tape recorders in the locker room?

I haven't read or heard ANY Comment to that effect. Not even rumours from the normal click bait users. Beware of liable lawsuits. I think you are projecting your idea that he's lazy and not a "team player" into "The other players must be pissed that he takes off a lot of shifts when the rest of us are trying hard" - therefore, the hard working players must want him off the team, and there must be a fracture in the team's cohesiveness. Kyrou's been less lazy, and trying to work harder and improve his play this season. He's not the greatest team player yet, but, at least he's giving a try to move towards that direction. I doubt that many Blues' players want him gone unless he brings back a significantly higher level of player assets back that clearly makes the team better.

 

[Blueston]

Really good 2nd half of the season overall.

January: Tied for 1st on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (5g and 6a in 13 games).

February: 2nd on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (5g and 5a in 11 games).

March: 3rd on the team in goals and tied for 2nd in points (6g and 5a in 15 games).

April: 1st on the team in goals and 2nd in points (6g and 3a in 7 games).

All in all, since January 1st he has 22 goals (1st on the team) and 41 points (2nd on the team) in 45 games, which is a 40 goal and 74 point pace. Looking at his full sample under Bannister, he played at a 39 goal and 77 point pace.

If he can do that over a full season (in combination with the level of defensive play he provided this season), then he is absolutely worth the contract. But he can't have 30 game slumps like the one he had to start this season. I think he played better than the numbers suggested in that stretch, but the final step he needs to take to be a true $8M player is finding a way to get himself out of cold shooting stretches quicker. If he can do that, then any other improvement to his game will start putting the contract into bargain territory.

Barring a 4+ goal night from someone else tonight, he's going to be the team's leading goal scorer for the 2nd season in a row. Barring a 3+ goal from anyone else tonight, he is also going to be the only Blue to hit 30 goals for the 2nd straight year.

Barring a disaster tonight where he gets caved in for a -20 (or more) differential in these categories, he's going to end the season with positive corsi, fenwick, shot, and scoring chance differential at 5 on 5. Unless he gets outscored by 8 goals tonight, he's going to positive in goal differential at 5 on 5 as well. His xGF% at 5 on 5 is slightly negative (49.58%) but still up over 6 percentage points from last year. All these numbers come with him getting sheltered a bit less than last year as well.

There was a ton of positive progress from Kyrou this year despite the dip in production that he cost himself with his first 30 games of the season.

the coaching change, and the jr-fueled controversy that led to kyrou's emotional response to being booed, and the subsequent embrace of him completely turned him around. i think kyrou's biggest problem is he can get in his head. He seems like a sensitive kid who puts lots of pressure on himself. I think at some point his perception of his relationship with berube detoriated and he lost some confidence. ironically, while berube was i think rightfully hard on him and helped make him into a much better player, kyrou's offensive struggles early this year were not an insignificant part of why chief got fired.

 

[TheDizee]

From where do you get that information? Do you have a close friend on the team, hidden tape recorders in the locker room?

I haven't read or heard ANY Comment to that effect. Not even rumours from the normal click bait users. Beware of liable lawsuits. I think you are projecting your idea that he's lazy and not a "team player" into "The other players must be pissed that he takes off a lot of shifts when the rest of us are trying hard" - therefore, the hard working players must want him off the team, and there must be a fracture in the team's cohesiveness. Kyrou's been less lazy, and trying to work harder and improve his play this season. He's not the greatest team player yet, but, at least he's giving a try to move towards that direction. I doubt that many Blues' players want him gone unless he brings back a significantly higher level of player assets back that clearly makes the team better.

it was reported last year that his new contract caused major issues in the locker room due to his laziness, lack of work ethic and overall unproven long term success.

 

[TheDizee]

@Robb_K

News Article: - Kyrou signs 8 year extension

Last time I checked, Kyrou was dead last in the NHL in +/-. Thanks to Andrew Peeke, Kyrou won’t finish last - 950th out of 951 players.* But I’ll point out that Peeke is a defensive d-man (12 pts on the season) on a team that plays for a team that has a goal differential of -113. Kyrou is his...

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[Blueston]

@Robb_K

News Article: - Kyrou signs 8 year extension

Last time I checked, Kyrou was dead last in the NHL in +/-. Thanks to Andrew Peeke, Kyrou won’t finish last - 950th out of 951 players.* But I’ll point out that Peeke is a defensive d-man (12 pts on the season) on a team that plays for a team that has a goal differential of -113. Kyrou is his...

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that makes him perhaps immature, but not a cancer. and his improved intensity and defensive responsibility this year should allay those concerns. as to jealous vets, that feels like their issue to me.

 

[Xerloris]

I'm not sure how Brian does it but can someone compare Kyrou's stats and contract to other players of similar stats and contracts?

 

[Blueston]

I'm not sure how Brian does it but can someone compare Kyrou's stats and contract to other players of similar stats and contracts?

hasn't brian done this for kyrou like 3 times already?