Yeah, sorry, I meant he was 3rd pairing with the Jets that then had a career year. This year he's been much, much better than 3rd pair.
Value of: Kulikov or Vatanen to the Leafs
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Yeah, sorry, I meant he was 3rd pairing with the Jets that then had a career year. This year he's been much, much better than 3rd pair.
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The condition would be winning the Stanley Cup, that would be the only condition in play there.
I don’t think it would happen, you can have a second conditional pick for that, but it’s not like people would expect it for making to the Conference Finals or something.
The guy that thought a conditional first would be appropriate was if the Leafs made it to the second round. Heh.
It reminds me of Ranger fans thinking Lemieux would garner a first, and two weeks later, he gets traded for a fourth.
I agree. Kulikov finished the year as a barely 3rd pair with the Jets gets a barely more than min contract and 2 assists later we are talking about trading 1st/2nds for him? I don’t know how this is reasonable.
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Kulikov is not worth a first, but given how absolute dog shit our defense has been the past couple of years before this one, of course Devils fans are going to overvalue a defenseman who is actually playing really good hockey. Kulikov is probably worth a 2nd + 3rd round pick, which is akin to what Sami Vatanen brought back last year, who was not playing nearly as well as Kulikov is playing presently this season. Vatanen got Kuokkanen (which is essentially a 2nd rounder), Freddy Claesson, and a 3rd round pick. Defensemen are typically a bit overvalued at the deadline, so I see Kulikov bringing back around a 2nd and a 3rd rounder.
No deal would include Kerfoot he didn't want to sign in Jersey when he was drafted by them why would we want him now
I can see him going for a 4th+ decent prospect. Where the 4th becomes a 3rd after 1 round, which becomes a 2nd if the team winds a few rounds, and maybe becomes 1st if they win the whole thing, with a ballancing pick going back at that point.
I.e
4th + prospect no matter what.
3rd+mid prospect if they make it through 1 round.
3rd+4th+mid prospect if they win two rounds
2nd+mid prospect if they win three rounds
1st+mid prospect if the win the cup, where Devils add a 3rd going back to the other way.
That’s just silly ^
I am sticking to my first offer of a second round pick that moves up to a first if the maple leafs can actually win a playoff series
I am sticking to my first offer of a second round pick that moves up to a first if the maple leafs can actually win a playoff series
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I wondering that about Vatanen as well. or is he struggling to put up points because he started late. kinda like Nylander when he sat out till December
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For a depth defender it absolutely isnt. Previous lack of success doesnt increase the value of a player you're bringing in.
HugeInTheShire
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Kulikov will most certainly not get the Devils a 1st, but his return should be solid as he's played well this season and is on an affordable contract
2nd and a prospect will definitely get it done... probably less in reality though
2nd and a prospect will definitely get it done... probably less in reality though
I think kulikov deserves to play in the top 4 wherever he goes. He is playing like an elite defenseman this season, not some depth defender.
I’m just going to keep him and resign him with a raise if that’s the best offer. However, Palmieri can be had for a second and a prospect
HugeInTheShire
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Don't need to keep him to re-sign him.. they could do the same thing the did with Vatanen last year
and Palms has a lot more value to a contender than Kulikov does
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I can't really speak to his proficiency on his off side, but I'd imagine with his style it wouldn't be too big of a deal. Based on his play this year, I'd take Kulikov over both those players.
