Value of: Kreider or Buchnevich to SJ
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Clint Eastwood
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charliemurphy
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Fistfullofbeer
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I don't know why NYR would want to move Buch. Plus, if we moved Labanc (value aside) for him it would basically still leave a hole on the roster. Both the teams are cap strapped. I would think it would have to be picks + prospects for the Rangers since they cannot take on salary.
themelkman
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Fistfullofbeer
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Most teams would not care about the prospects that are not even close to our best. 2021 1st is the best piece there and it will be a late 1st. Would we trade Labanc for a late 1st?
Yeah I can’t see NYR trading Buch at all. Seems like he is going to fit with their long term plans
tony d
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Kreider would be a good fit on the Sharks. I think it'd cost a pick, a mid level prospect and possibly Labanc.
Fistfullofbeer
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I maybe in the minority but I value Labanc higher than Kreider given the combination of age, contract status and AAV. Kreider is a better player but the difference between them is not enough in my opinion to offset the other advantages that Labanc brings.
Gecklund
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Wouldn’t give up Labanc straight up for Krieder. He’s a good player but signed at 4.5Mish for one more year. Moving Labanc for Krieder is just counter productive.
Stewie Griffin
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Well so far this has been Sharks fans saying they don't want to pay that much for them so I don't know if there's a deal to be made lol.
Fistfullofbeer
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Kreider for picks + prospects is a possibility. Don't see the Rangers wanting to move Buch for anything sort of an overpayment.
Dr Quincy
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Sometimes just stacking things up doesn't make a team want to do something. In this case I don't think picks 2 years out are worth a lot. And while I like Emond, NYR don't really need a G prospect.
You have to ask yourself: does this beat out other offers from teams that might be offering pieces that the other team actually needs? In this case I think there are a lot of other teams that would make an offer that the Rangers liked better.
San Jose doesn't have the cap space to add them without sending cap space back.
Patty Ice
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Actually, they have room to fit either one. Now to add Thornton and Marleau as expected, Melker Karlsson or Dell would need to be moved. Melker being the most likely.
Shootertooter
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The Rangers should not be interested in trading Buch.
He is an RFA and likely will be bridged to a decent deal.
Kreider costs a 2020 1st plus a pretty decent prospect.
I'd be willing to go a top level prospect and a cond. 2nd that turns into a first if he resigns.
I dont think SJ signed Labanc to that great contract just to trade him. Can they fit Kreider under their cap. I dont see the Rangers retain on Krieder unless the return is fantastic.
That said, a first round pick plus a couple of prospects should work. I know the Sharks have a couple of kids they consider almost untouchable but they have several later round picks who seem to be outperforming those expectations. The Rangers could use some more forwards in the pipeline.
That said, a first round pick plus a couple of prospects should work. I know the Sharks have a couple of kids they consider almost untouchable but they have several later round picks who seem to be outperforming those expectations. The Rangers could use some more forwards in the pipeline.
themelkman
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Well see those prices are ridiculous for a team that doesn’t have a choice but to get rid of someone and the guy who’s 28 with an expiring contract. If that’s the cost then DW won’t make the deal.
themelkman
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That is pretty bad value for the sharks. I would much rather let Chmelevski play on the sharks this year.
One Winged Angel
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I would think Gorton would want a 1st and a prospect for Kreider. I doubt Buchnevich is moved. If Buchnevich was to be moved, I’d want Lebanc.
Patty Ice
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I'd go as far as to say the Sharks have a slew of underrated forward prospects with NHL potential currently in the system. They definitely have too many to fit on their AHL club and are going to need to send a guy or two back to have their overage CHL year and a guy or two going to Europe.
themelkman
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Sharks will not be trading Labanc. Getting rid of him for an okay upgrade doesn’t help our forward situation and gets rid of one of the sharks future leaders and a serious team player.
PattyLafontaine
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Kreider isn’t worth as much as people think.
He’s like a derivative with a one year expiration date at which point his value is zero.
He’s like a derivative with a one year expiration date at which point his value is zero.
themelkman
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Especially when New York needs to get rid of someone. They don’t have the luxury of demanding something like the Erik karlsson trade.
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