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From a simplistic country rube point of view one could argue that the gm of either HIFK or Jokerit couldn't fail unless totally incompetent. To shine is the thing to aspire for.
Kekalainen a good GM?
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From a simplistic country rube point of view one could argue that the gm of either HIFK or Jokerit couldn't fail unless totally incompetent. To shine is the thing to aspire for.
You'd be surprised how many people thought/think he was/is a bad GM.
Check out this thread: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1771135&highlight=jarmo&page=2
Check out this thread: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1771135&highlight=jarmo&page=2
Then why did other teams not take them. There had to be something they saw in them others didnt.
A lot of us in Columbus were starting to have our doubts about him last year. Ownership gave him and Davidson a contract extension. Looks like they were right and we were just impatient.
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At 2nd ovr, not a lot of team passed on Spezza. Pietrangelo was 4th ovr and better than 3rd ovr Bogosian, but Stamkos and Doughty are better.
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Phenomenal scout and a fantastic eye for talent.
Questionable negotiator when it comes to trades and re-signings, but nothing unusual for a first time GM. And having to overpay free agents might also be due to Columbus' struggles for legitimacy. Seems to have gotten better at both qualities over time.
Doesn't seem to be afraid of making a big splash by trading big names but at the same time, won't make a bad move just for the sake of doing something. Dubois instead of Puljujarvi might define his career in the end, for good or bad.
All in all, seems like a pretty good GM. It's a results orientated business but sometimes you have to be patient and wait for the bigger picture to emerge.
Big fan of Davidson too. Was hoping he'd come to the Flames during the Feaster nightmare but Burke has been adequate so far.
Questionable negotiator when it comes to trades and re-signings, but nothing unusual for a first time GM. And having to overpay free agents might also be due to Columbus' struggles for legitimacy. Seems to have gotten better at both qualities over time.
Doesn't seem to be afraid of making a big splash by trading big names but at the same time, won't make a bad move just for the sake of doing something. Dubois instead of Puljujarvi might define his career in the end, for good or bad.
All in all, seems like a pretty good GM. It's a results orientated business but sometimes you have to be patient and wait for the bigger picture to emerge.
Big fan of Davidson too. Was hoping he'd come to the Flames during the Feaster nightmare but Burke has been adequate so far.
For the picks that became Elvis Merzlikins and Gabe Carlsson. Poor value, for sure, but we'll find out if it's nothing some years down the road.
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Yeah let's not let actual results get in the way of a compelling argument like "cos he is". A dude on a forum said that he is one of the worst.
Who you gonna believe? "Friendly factory ", or your lying eyes?
Last time I checked Puljujärvi plays in the NHL.
When given proper ice time he has definitely shown an NHL ready game. That much "we all know."
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Remains to been seen in a few years. In Finland he was a a bit contradictory character I think. At least people have lots of different opinions. I think he knew how to plan a career and is executing it. Maybe not the most humanly figure in the Finnish hockey business. All people may not love his robotic-like appearance and he certainly knows his value.
At the moment we know he's been a great scout and a team builder in the past. As an NHL GM he's had some rough and some great times. Must wait few years to understand what part of it is pure luck and what part is a result of a hard work. Although looking good right now.
At the moment we know he's been a great scout and a team builder in the past. As an NHL GM he's had some rough and some great times. Must wait few years to understand what part of it is pure luck and what part is a result of a hard work. Although looking good right now.
It's logical to not change an opinion on Jarmo's ranking as a GM based on 30 games but it's not fair to call the CBJ play unsustainable just because they've made a complete turnaround from last season. Nothing suggests they will not be able to keep the pace for the rest of the season.
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you have raised team from being last to lead the league?!
and you are an freaking oracle, amazing people here nowadays
No NHL gms are good. Good pro sports teams executives go to leagues where they make more money and their decisions actually matter. Too much variance. This is like asking if the best roulette player in the world is a good poker player.
Yet HIFK and Jokerit director of sports have probably failed more this decade alone than established a well-founded path for their teams. You cannot also forget the strength of Kärpät or the continuum at Tappara or even former dynasties such as TPS so it ain't like SM-liiga is not widely contested. Kekäläinen at least departed in time of the best possible success, few years into a five year project.
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Yup he's an incredible scouting talent. Knows how to grow talent and find them in the middle of nowhere.
Contracts are an issue though... they seem to be getting better at that though.
"Because he is " and "unsustainable " are extremely weak arguments. They are based on nothing but your subjective opinion. They are as useless as "trust me ". I don't. And I take real life results over some forum posters opinion.
