Value of: Juuse Saros

[Hockeyholic]

First off, does this guy project to be a decent NHL starter? Secondly, what would his value be?

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[varano]

First off, does this guy project to be a decent NHL starter? Secondly, what would his value be?

It's a gamble like any other backup and his value is a second round pick

 

[is the answer jesus]

First off, does this guy project to be a decent NHL starter? Secondly, what would his value be?

I think he'll be a good NHL starter, but I don't think the Preds are going to be very receptive to moving him.

 

[rent free]

aren't the preds gonna protect him instead of rinne at the next expansion draft? would be impossible to get if that was the case

 

[AdmiralsFan24]

Not available

 

[Mustard]

Juuse is a star in the making, and our franchise goalie is 35. Not available for anything other than a gross overpayment.

 

[brock0791]

I think Dell gets calls first with a little more of a track record

 

[AdmiralsFan24]

I think Dell gets calls first with a little more of a track record

Dell is 6 years older than Saros and both have played the same number of games in the NHL.

 

[Newsworthy]

The expansion draft will be interesting. Maybe the Preds make a side deal.

 

[AdmiralsFan24]

The expansion draft will be interesting. Maybe the Preds make a side deal.

What possible reason would we need to make a side deal for? By the time Seattle comes on board Rinne will be almost 38. Even if we left him unprotected, it's doubtful Seattle would take him just because he's like a year or two from retirement, if he hasn't retired already.

 

[PredsV82]

The expansion draft will be interesting. Maybe the Preds make a side deal.

I suspect the plan is to have Rinne and Josi both as impending UFAs at the time of the expansion draft and leave them unprotected but sign them as soon as the draft is done.

 

[missionAvs]

This guy's going to be good. Real good. Would kill to have a young goalie like him in our pipeline.

 

[GoldOnGold]

Saros currently projects to be an NHL starter, and he is the heir apparent to Rinne. I think the Preds would need a very lopsided trade to part with him, especially because our goalie pipeline is bare behind him.

His stats for the year: 11-5-7, 2.44 GAA and .925 sv%.

I know not everybody buys into advanced statistics, but he had 10.28 goals saved above average (GSAA), putting him 7th in the league ahead of a whole mess of starters despite only playing 26 games. He had the 11th best high-danger save percentage as well.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Saros currently projects to be an NHL starter, and he is the heir apparent to Rinne. I think the Preds would need a very lopsided trade to part with him, especially because our goalie pipeline is bare behind him.

His stats for the year: 11-5-7, 2.44 GAA and .925 sv%.

I know not everybody buys into advanced statistics, but he had 10.28 goals saved above average (GSAA), putting him 7th in the league ahead of a whole mess of starters despite only playing 26 games. He had the 11th best high-danger save percentage as well.

Plus it's about how he can control and dictate the game. I actually thought Saros' rebound control was better than Rinne last season which is very difficult to do as Rinne has consistently been at worst a top 3 goalie in rebound control (Quality of rebounds allowed and puck frozen percentage). He's pretty good at moving the puck as well, not quite as good as Rinne or some of the greats in that category but still pretty good.

 

[GoldOnGold]

Plus it's about how he can control and dictate the game. I actually thought Saros' rebound control was better than Rinne last season which is very difficult to do as Rinne has consistently been at worst a top 3 goalie in rebound control (Quality of rebounds allowed and puck frozen percentage). He's pretty good at moving the puck as well, not quite as good as Rinne or some of the greats in that category but still pretty good.

I think both Rinne and Saros have benefited from watching the other and practicing with them. Saros is much better at puck-handling than he was in the early days, and Rinne has been better with angles and rebounds.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

2 more years until he becomes a full starter.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

I think both Rinne and Saros have benefited from watching the other and practicing with them. Saros is much better at puck-handling than he was in the early days, and Rinne has been better with angles and rebounds.

That's always been Rinne's strength though. I do agree Saros is better in puck handling.

 

[GoldOnGold]

That's always been Rinne's strength though. I do agree Saros is better in puck handling.

True, it just seems like he's been calmer in net and that helped his numbers this year.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

True, it just seems like he's been calmer in net and that helped his numbers this year.

I remember reading an article about rebound control, and minus lockout season, Rinne was always the best in quality of rebounds he allowed puck frozen percentage. It showed that Rinne and Pavelec were extreme outliers. All other goalies were generally a lot closer and it was far more team determined. Rinne on the other hand can influence shots against by himself positively, reverse is true for Pavelec. It only brought up to 2014-2015 though. Also Rinne was always a relatively weak goalie in rebound save percentage, one of his weaknesses.

 

[Esko6]

Saros is probably the most impressive young Finnish goalie I have ever seen. He has been great at every level, Nashville is not letting him go easily.

 

[Lateralous]

This is meant as no shot at Rinne but given the depth of their roster, if Nashville only loses a 38 year old goalie to the expansion draft, Seattle is doing them a favor.

I love watching Saros. Super quick and athletic. I see no reason why Nashville would move him given that they've seemingly been grooming him to take over for Rinne for the last few years.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

This is meant as no shot at Rinne but given the depth of their roster, if Nashville only loses a 38 year old goalie to the expansion draft, Seattle is doing them a favor.

I love watching Saros. Super quick and athletic. I see no reason why Nashville would move him given that they've seemingly been grooming him to take over for Rinne for the last few years.

I doubt Seattle's claiming a 38-year-old goaltender.

 

[justafan22]

Rinne is a UFA next year, will be interesting to see how long they sign him for since it'll be a goalie on a 35+ contract

 

[Lateralous]

I doubt Seattle's claiming a 38-year-old goaltender.

No kidding, hence why I said they would be doing the Predators a favor.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

It's a gamble like any other backup and his value is a second round pick

Well, no. His value isn't just what other teams would pay for him, Nashville has a voice in this matter and there's no reason to trade him for a 2nd round pick at this point in time.

Maybe his trade value is a 2nd rounder in a vacuum, but this isn't a vacuum.

Rinne is getting up there in age and nearing the end of his contract, unless Saros demands to be the starter come October I just don't see a good reason for Nashville to even consider such a move.