Proposal: Just for fun... What would you trade every Habs player for today?

[Natey]

Question is simple. What is your value, league-wide, that you'd accept in a trade for every single one of our players? Would you have accepted Cody Franson for Josh Gorges? Try to keep proposals for a single player.

An example would be: Cory Schneider + Adam Henrique for Carey Price.

I think this could be pretty fun!

Sven Andrighetto:
Nathan Beaulieu:
Michael Bournival:
Rene Bourque:
Jacob de la Rose:
David Desharnais:
Lars Eller:
Alexei Emelin:
Zachary Fucale:
Alex Galchenyuk:

Brendan Gallagher:
Tom Gilbert:
Charles Hudon:
Manny Malhotra:
Andrei Markov:
Michael McCarron:
Travis Moen:
Max Pacioretty:
P.A. Parenteau:
Tomas Plekanec

Carey Price:
Brandon Prust:
Nikita Scherbak:
Jiri Sekac:
P.K. Subban:
Jarred Tinordi:
Christian Thomas:
Dustin Tokarski:
Mike Weaver:
Dale Weise:

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[Rapala]

Either of the Kings or Hawks rosters...
Straight up Coaches and all except we keep Gervais best equipment manager in the world!

 

[Natey]

Either of the Kings or Hawks rosters...
Straight up Coaches and all except we keep Gervais best equipment manager in the world!

lol, I wouldn't want to lose Stephen Waite.

I'm working on my list.. it's just for fun, not meant to bash or belittle any player.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

Sven Andrighetto: A late second round pick
Nathan Beaulieu: Brandon Gormley
Michael Bournival: A 4th round pick
Rene Bourque: Scottie Upshall
Jacob de la Rose: A late second round pick or
David Desharnais: Sam Gagner and a 4th
Lars Eller: Shawn Matthias and a 4th
Alexei Emelin: Radko Gudas + a 4th
Zachary Fucale: A late second round pick
Alex Galchenyuk: Seth Jones

Brendan Gallagher: Marchand
Tom Gilbert: Raphael Diaz and a 3rd round pick
Charles Hudon: A late third round pick
Manny Malhotra: A 4th round pick
Andrei Markov: A late first round pick + mid level prospect
Michael McCarron: A second round pick
Travis Moen: Chris Thornburn
Max Pacioretty: Evander Kane + 2nd round pick
P.A. Parenteau + a mid round pick: Eriksson
Tomas Plekanec: Stepan

Carey Price: Rask
Brandon Prust: Nystrom
Nikita Scherbak: A first round pick
Jiri Sekac: A second round pick
P.K. Subban: Pietrangelo
Jarred Tinordi: A second round pick
Christian Thomas: A 4th round pick
Dustin Tokarski: A 4th round pick
Mike Weaver: A 4th round pick
Dale Weise: A 4th round pick

 

[hardcorehabs]

Jacob de la Rose: A late second round pick
Zachary Fucale: A late second round pick
Alex Galchenyuk: Seth Jones
Brendan Gallagher: Marchand
Charles Hudon: A late third round pick
Michael McCarron: A second round pick
Carey Price: Rask
Jiri Sekac: A second round pick
Jarred Tinordi: A second round pick

Big NO to all of these lol.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Sven Andrighetto: A late second round pick
Nathan Beaulieu: Brandon Gormley
Michael Bournival: A 4th round pick
Rene Bourque: Scottie Upshall
Jacob de la Rose: A late second round pick or
David Desharnais: Sam Gagner and a 4th
Lars Eller: Shawn Matthias and a 4th
Alexei Emelin: Radko Gudas + a 4th
Zachary Fucale: A late second round pick
Alex Galchenyuk: Seth Jones

Brendan Gallagher: Marchand
Tom Gilbert: Raphael Diaz and a 3rd round pick
Charles Hudon: A late third round pick
Manny Malhotra: A 4th round pick
Andrei Markov: A late first round pick + mid level prospect
Michael McCarron: A second round pick
Travis Moen: Chris Thornburn
Max Pacioretty: Evander Kane + 2nd round pick
P.A. Parenteau + a mid round pick: Eriksson
Tomas Plekanec: Stepan

Carey Price: Rask
Brandon Prust: Nystrom
Nikita Scherbak: A first round pick
Jiri Sekac: A second round pick
P.K. Subban: Pietrangelo
Jarred Tinordi: A second round pick
Christian Thomas: A 4th round pick
Dustin Tokarski: A 4th round pick
Mike Weaver: A 4th round pick
Dale Weise: A 4th round pick

...thank the Hockey Gods you're not our GM...

 

[Rapala]

...thank the Hockey Gods you're not our GM...

I could smell the sarcasm couldn't you?

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

...thank the Hockey Gods you're not our GM...

That was a Milbury-esque list.....

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

I could smell the sarcasm couldn't you?

...my favorites were a late second-rounder for JDR and Marchand for Gallagher...

 

[uiCk]

...my favorites were a late second-rounder for JDR and Marchand for Gallagher...

His list is actually pretty good value wise (in terms of what habs assets are worth). We would be lucky if Gallagher ever reaches Marchand in terms of productivity.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Sven Andrighetto: Gormley
Nathan Beaulieu: Sekera
Michael Bournival: Justin Bailey
Rene Bourque: 4 million in cap space
Jacob de la Rose: Hartman
David Desharnais: Tlusty
Lars Eller: Vrbata
Alexei Emelin: Kadri
Zachary Fucale: Tanev
Alex Galchenyuk: Josi

Brendan Gallagher: Filip Forsberg
Tom Gilbert: Boyle
Charles Hudon: Petry
Manny Malhotra: Lovejoy
Andrei Markov: Sharp
Michael McCarron: Grubauer
Travis Moen: Gazdic
Max Pacioretty: Burns
P.A. Parenteau: Marcus Johansson
Tomas Plekanec: Boedker

Carey Price: Kopitar
Brandon Prust: Clitsome
Nikita Scherbak: Tyler Johnson
Jiri Sekac: Goligoski
P.K. Subban: mackinnon
Jarred Tinordi: Muzzin
Christian Thomas: Hoffman
Dustin Tokarski: Tanner Pearson
Mike Weaver: Fiddler
Dale Weise: Roussel

 

[Le Barron de HF]

His list is actually pretty good value wise (in terms of what habs assets are worth). We would be lucky if Gallagher ever reaches Marchand in terms of productivity.

Exactly, I did mine based on league value not what I'd do. I'll do an armchair one soon.

 

[vokiel]

I would trade them all for a pair of dirty socks. They better win next game.

 

[Disappearing Semin]

Sven Andrighetto: Sidney Crosby
Nathan Beaulieu:Sidney Crosby
Michael Bournival:Sidney Crosby
Rene Bourque:Sidney Crosby
Jacob de la Rose:Sidney Crosby
David Desharnais:Sidney Crosby
Lars Eller:Sidney Crosby
Alexei Emelin:Sidney Crosby
Zachary Fucale:Sidney Crosby
Alex Galchenyuk:Sidney Crosby

Brendan Gallagher:Sidney Crosby
Tom Gilbert:Sidney Crosby
Charles Hudon:Sidney Crosby
Manny Malhotra:Sidney Crosby
Andrei Markov:Sidney Crosby
Michael McCarron: Sidney Crosby
Travis Moen:Sidney Crosby
Max Pacioretty:Sidney Crosby
P.A. Parenteau:Sidney Crosby
Tomas Plekanec:Sidney Crosby

Carey Price: Sidney Crosby
Brandon Prust: Sidney Crosby
Nikita Scherbak: Sidney Crosby
Jiri Sekac: Sidney Crosby
P.K. Subban: Sidney Crosby
Jarred Tinordi: Sidney Crosby
Christian Thomas: Sidney Crosby
Dustin Tokarski: Sidney Crosby
Mike Weaver: Sidney Crosby
Dale Weise: Milan Lucic

 

[LyricalLyricist]

I'll try. I'll avoid putting picks or free just to make it more interesting and harder. Doing it very quick so don't *****. I'm fully aware some values are off.

Sven Andrighetto:
Nathan Beaulieu: Peter Holland
Michael Bournival:
Rene Bourque: Clutterbuck
Jacob de la Rose: Shea Theodore
David Desharnais: Purcell
Lars Eller: Brodziak
Alexei Emelin: Methot
Zachary Fucale: Malcom Subban
Alex Galchenyuk: Johansen

Brendan Gallagher: Marchand
Tom Gilbert: Gorges
Charles Hudon:
Manny Malhotra: Gordon
Andrei Markov: Phaneuf
Michael McCarron: Devante Smith-Pelly
Travis Moen: Regehr
Max Pacioretty: van Riemsdyk
P.A. Parenteau: Tanguay
Tomas Plekanec Backes

Carey Price: Rask
Brandon Prust: Winnik
Nikita Scherbak:
Jiri Sekac:
P.K. Subban: Doughty
Jarred Tinordi: Tom Wilson
Christian Thomas:
Dustin Tokarski:
Mike Weaver:
Dale Weise:

I wasn't sure what to put for a few of them so I left blank.

 

[CanadienShark]

Sven Andrighetto: A late second round pick
Nathan Beaulieu: Brandon Gormley
Michael Bournival: A 4th round pick
Rene Bourque: Scottie Upshall
Jacob de la Rose: A late second round pick or
David Desharnais: Sam Gagner and a 4th
Lars Eller: Shawn Matthias and a 4th
Alexei Emelin: Radko Gudas + a 4th
Zachary Fucale: A late second round pick
Alex Galchenyuk: Seth Jones

Brendan Gallagher: Marchand
Tom Gilbert: Raphael Diaz and a 3rd round pick
Charles Hudon: A late third round pick
Manny Malhotra: A 4th round pick
Andrei Markov: A late first round pick + mid level prospect
Michael McCarron: A second round pick
Travis Moen: Chris Thornburn
Max Pacioretty: Evander Kane + 2nd round pick
P.A. Parenteau + a mid round pick: Eriksson
Tomas Plekanec: Stepan

Carey Price: Rask
Brandon Prust: Nystrom
Nikita Scherbak: A first round pick
Jiri Sekac: A second round pick
P.K. Subban: Pietrangelo
Jarred Tinordi: A second round pick
Christian Thomas: A 4th round pick
Dustin Tokarski: A 4th round pick
Mike Weaver: A 4th round pick
Dale Weise: A 4th round pick

Bolded get no's from the Habs. Their value to the Habs is greater than their trade value, and you're just undervaluing some.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

Weise: Garbutt
Gallagher: Wingels
Pacioretty: JVR
Subban: Pietrangelo
Prust: Dorsett
Price: Hall
Plekanec: Nielsen
Emelin: McGinn
Eller: Sutter
Galchenyuk: Schneider
Gilbert: Neil

Bolded get no's from the Habs. Their value to the Habs is greater than their trade value, and you're just undervaluing some.

Who am I exactly undervaluing. I doubt many teams would give you a first round pick for McCarron/Beaulieu/Tinordi.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Weise: Garbutt
Gallagher: Wingels
Pacioretty: JVR
Subban: Pietrangelo
Prust: Dorsett
Price: Hall
Plekanec: Nielsen
Emelin: McGinn
Eller: Sutter
Galchenyuk: Schneider
Gilbert: Neil



Who am I exactly undervaluing. I doubt many teams would give you a first round pick for McCarron/Beaulieu/Tinordi.

...imo you'd be dead wrong there...

 

[DoctorPurple]

This is turning into a ''which habs player best compares to in the NHL?'' thread.

Keep the picks in the trade proposal!

 

[Devourers]

Since it's straight up, it's a lot harder than people think. I removed some players who likely are worth more to us at this point than they are traded, but kept others who might be as well.

Nathan Beaulieu: 2nd round pick
Michael Bournival: 3rd round pick
Rene Bourque: Setoguchi (expect that kind of player back)
David Desharnais: Moulson
Lars Eller: Perron + Pick
Alexei Emelin: Nurse
Zachary Fucale: 2nd round pick
Alex Galchenyuk: Morgan Rielly + 1st <--- meh, probably still wouldn't do it.

Brendan Gallagher: 2nd + prospect
Tom Gilbert: 5th round pick
Manny Malhotra: 2nd round pick at deadline
Andrei Markov: 1st + prospect
Michael McCarron: 1st round pick
Travis Moen: Future considerations
Max Pacioretty: 1st + Andrew Ladd + Jake Trouba
P.A. Parenteau: 2nd round pick
Tomas Plekanec 1st round pick + prospect

Carey Price: Pekka Rinne + F. Forsberg
Brandon Prust: 3rd + future considerations
Nikita Scherbak: 1st + prospect
Jiri Sekac: 1st round pick at deadline
P.K. Subban: Seth Jones + F. Forsberg + R. Josi + 1st + 2nd + 3rd
Christian Thomas: 5th round pick
Dustin Tokarski: 2nd round pick
Mike Weaver: 2nd round pick at deadline
Dale Weise: 3rd round pick

Not saying I'd do any of these trades but I'd be expecting this kind of value for these players. Some of them like Sekac are quite comical maybe, but it's what I'd try to get, in a lot of cases if you can't get an overpayment just keep the player. Some guys would probably have more value at deadline too. I think Malhotra for a faceoff inept team heading into the playoffs could be overpaid. Look what Buffalo got a few years back from Nashville.

All in all though, most of these players would be more easy to move in a package.

 

[Lebowski]

Who am I exactly undervaluing. I doubt many teams would give you a first round pick for McCarron/Beaulieu/Tinordi.

You overvalue draft picks by a lot. You'd trade most of our upcoming players for a draft pick that's inferior to where they were picked. Not a lot of draft picks make it to the pro level, let alone can play on a NHL roster in their early 20s.

Bournival for a 4th round pick? What do you expect out of a 4th rounder exactly? Over the last few years: Reway, Vail, Didier, Archambault, Nygren, MacMillan, Ellis, Avtsin, Missianen, Mikus, Wyman, Locke, Stewart, Lambert, Jarventie, Eneqvist, Larrivee...

That's from 2014 to 2000. Not a single roster player out of the bunch. Only Nygren and Reway may be worth Bourniva in the long run, and that's a stretch to begin with.

Roster players > draft picks. Young, established roster players >>> draft picks.

 

[Disappearing Semin]

Since it's straight up, it's a lot harder than people think. I removed some players who likely are worth more to us at this point than they are traded, but kept others who might be as well.

P.K. Subban: Seth Jones + F. Forsberg + R. Josi + 1st + 2nd + 3rd
.

I think Montreal would easily take that offer if they were offered this... Even with all the picks removed.

 

[Analyzer*]

Well, they're worth a ton, so I'd want market value +

Well, isn't that how it works, eh people who always make terrible proposals ?

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

P.K. Subban: Seth Jones + F. Forsberg + R. Josi + 1st + 2nd + 3rd

holy overvalue, Subban wouldn't even get Jones/Josi + Forsberg

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Weise: Garbutt
Gallagher: Wingels
Pacioretty: JVR
Subban: Pietrangelo
Prust: Dorsett
Price: Hall
Plekanec: Nielsen
Emelin: McGinn
Eller: Sutter
Galchenyuk: Schneider
Gilbert: Neil



Who am I exactly undervaluing. I doubt many teams would give you a first round pick for McCarron/Beaulieu/Tinordi.

You would be absolutely wrong