Confirmed with Link: Julien & Muller Fired! Ducharme Interim Coach & Burrows Joins Habs Coaching Staff

[Runner77]

Better get KK going

No doubt about it -- that's going to be one of Ducharme's top jobs. I don't get where the KK from last year's playoffs, has gone.

 

[Kriss E]

I agree, I don't think they've quit on him either, but something was still wrong here.

For years I felt that Julien was getting the most out of a poor roster.

This season however we have a decent roster, probably above average even, and one of the easiest schedules imaginable thanks to the Covid divisions, and he's not getting much out of it.

How much of that blame is on him? I don't know, but something had to give, especially when you factor in our poor special teams, which has been an ongoing problem throughout his tenure.

Ya I'm not surprised he got fired. The biggest thing for me are the special teams. I don't think the team is as good as some may think, but we shouldn't be looking this sloppy.
I don't get the feeling they quit on Julien but his teams are usually pretty organized and structured, so it's weird seeing the guys play very sloppy. That said, it's been like this since game 1. Maybe Julien's head wasn't in it after his health scare and COVID...I don't know really. Alas, the page has turned, let's see what Ducharme does.

 

[Runner77]

Yes, it's all part and parcel to it...that's why i hate Timmins as much as MB.

Habs teflon hierarchy begins with Timmins, Pricer and Bergevin.

 

[Man Purse]

fondest Claude memory....

he was still the coach of Boston...

he was super pissed that Habs were 4-2 lead in the waning moments and sent out Rinaldo raise hell, turned out he ran at Nate Beaulieu...

Nate gave him a carbon fiber crosscheck to the dome... Nate be all like... 'I ain't playin playa!'

 

[Toastman]

Yeah, like the two 8 game losing streaks last season. Way too common.

Julien was in his 4th year, far from being "way too early". It was plain to see that many players had given up on him.

Then they should have fired him at the end of last season.. we had a great start to the season.. one slump does not merit firing a Stanley cup winning coach..

 

[Gains]

The best part about this is that it means they think Ducharme is ready to be a HC. They must value him a lot.

 

[Habs]

What are you talking about? Chabot, Tkachuk and Stuetzle are already better than anything we have. Add Norris, Bratherson, and Brannstrom, and they got Formenton, Sanderson, Dokker, Pinto, Abramov, Thomson coming.

I agree, and that mindset is brutal. 20 guys playing as a team can beat anyone, on most nights.

 

[Kriss E]

Agree totally. And that's what's been wrong with this franchise for the past 25 years -our complete and utter lack of young players developing into impact building blocks. It's been always failures and stunted growth and in some cases, trades that see them develop elsewhere (i.e. Mcdonaugh, Sergachev)

We did get good blocks rising at the same time with Price-PK-Maxpac-Gallagher becoming strong players together. But we failed to surround them adequately.

 

[ZUKI]

I just brought his name up in the Laval thread as we were talking on the subject.

why ? he isn't a coach.
I would prefer a coach career candidate, not another ex-player .

 

[Tyson]

What are you talking about? Chabot, Tkachuk and Stuetzle are already better than anything we have. Add Norris, Bratherson, and Brannstrom, and they got Formenton, Sanderson, Dokker, Pinto, Abramov, Thomson coming.

Exactly. Sens will be a force very soon

 

[Runner77]

I bet Gally is not with PD

I'll take that bet too. PD should inherit defensive forwards and his deployment should also change into something more suitable to his shutdown ability.

 

[Kriss E]

No doubt about it -- that's going to be one of Ducharme's top jobs. I don't get where the KK from last year's playoffs, has gone.

It was a 10 game sample buddy, dead smack in the middle of a pandemic, with a bunch of players not even wanting to play as reported by Pierre McGuire and Darren Dreger. Heck, teammates were even fighting each other in their bubble hotel.
I wouldn't base anything off this little summer covid tournament.

 

[dm1371]

Bring Bouchard pls

 

[Runner77]

Now fire the real problem, you can do that by looking in the mirror idiot. 3 kids down the middle that can't win faceoffs? Yikes.

That donut is going to need filling. Can't see how they can keep rolling with the kids -- a trade is the only option, if MB truly wants to go all in.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Then they should have fired him at the end of last season.. we had a great start to the season.. one slump does not merit firing a Stanley cup winning coach..

We are playing 2/3 of a normal season in a condensed schedule with a full cap and high expectations in what most can see as a weak division which the Habs should easily seal a top 4 spot. The inconsistency reached a boiling point and something had to give, it's no big mystery.

 

[Draft]

Special teams and offence are at the top of the list for improvements, but physical play needs to be right up there as well. The team plays so soft considering the players it has. I think it'll make a big difference for the big defenceman and Kotkaniemi.

 

[Tighthead]

Then they should have fired him at the end of last season.. we had a great start to the season.. one slump does not merit firing a Stanley cup winning coach..

What’s the limitation period on that Chp victory? Because that was ten seasons ago with a whole different team. I can’t believe any rational person still uses it in evaluating Julien’s 2021 performance.

 

[Runner77]

It was a 10 game sample buddy, dead smack in the middle of a pandemic, with a bunch of players not even wanting to play as reported by Pierre McGuire and Darren Dreger. Heck, teammates were even fighting each other in their bubble hotel.
I wouldn't base anything off this little summer covid tournament.

Sure, but he still showed something. He took his game to the next level. Once you display a skill like that, you own it. It still has to be there, it needs to be brought out again. No one is asking him to do something he's not done before as we all realize he's only 20. But, that recent display of skill, it should be there, is all I'm suggesting.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Exactly. Sens will be a force very soon

Much sooner than the Habs

We have dark times ahead of us still

 

[Adam Michaels]

why ? he isn't a coach.
I would prefer a coach career candidate, not another ex-player .

Why not? Burrows wasn't a coach either.

 

[Runner77]

What’s the limitation period on that Chp victory? Because that was ten seasons ago with a whole different team. I can’t believe any rational person still uses it in evaluating Julien’s 2021 performance.

Yeah but, that 10 year ago Julien SC win sure impressed Bergevin.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

This is f***ing great!! Hated the hiring in the first place, wasted 4 years but at least it’s done. I like Muller but the PP needs a shake up - I’m not a Burrows fan but we will see.

Can’t wait to see the lines

 

[Tighthead]

fondest Claude memory....

he was still the coach of Boston...

he was super pissed that Habs were 4-2 lead in the waning moments and sent out Rinaldo raise hell, turned out he ran at Nate Beaulieu...

Nate gave him a carbon fiber crosscheck to the dome... Nate be all like... 'I ain't playin playa!'

Nate could be hell on wheels on and off the ice, but I miss his swagger.

 

[nhlfan9191]

I think Ducharme as interim is by far the best option. If he sucks like Cunneyworth, no problem you hire someone better in the offseason, if he's a success, extend him... the worst thing would be a CJ hiring, like Gallant or Babcock with a multi-years contract and see absolutely no change (like what happen when CJ got hired).

I always felt Ducharme was hired to be groomed to take over for Julien at some point as did a lot of fans. And that appears to have been the case. Hopefully he brings a more modern approach to the game that this team hasn’t had in what seems like forever. Getting rid of Muller was just as important as getting rid of Julien IMO as well.

 

[OldCraig71]

The best part about this is that it means they think Ducharme is ready to be a HC. They must value him a lot.

Hey, I don't know if that's such a good thing, they have "valued" way too many of the wrong people over the last 9 years.

 

[Wats]

I swear someone called this in the PGT.