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I remember the first time Barry Trotz told me Ryan Suter would someday make the Hall of Fame. I respect Barry's knowledge and know that Suts does many things defensively that don't show up in the box score. Clearly the league sees him as elite given the contract he got, so he must be great, right?
Below are his stats. He's averaged 34 points over 7 full seasons (makes me feel old to think Suter's played 7 full seasons already). Over the last 4 seasons he's average 42 points. He's never scored more the 8 goals and has averaged 6 goals over the last 6 seasons. On the offensive side of an elite D-Man, these are not elite numbers, yet Suts earned elite dollars and enjoys elite recognition. So how do we grade him as the Wild's #1 D-Man? I'm not sure.
I would be willing to bet Roman Josi's full year stats next year meet or exceed Suter's 42 points. On the d-side, my lovely wife and aggressive Pred fan has always complained to me about Suter's defensive lapses and doesn't understand how he's attained this elite status. Shutdown defense is difficult to capture in stats, so it's in the eye of the beholder.
So I ask, how do we judge success for Ryan Suter, #1 D-Man for hte Minnesota Wild?
Ryan Suter
Defense
Born Jan 21 1985 -- Madison, WI
Height 6.01 -- Weight 195
Selected by Nashville Predators round 1 #7 overall 2003 NHL Entry Draft
--- Regular Season --- ---- Playoffs ----
Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
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2001-02 USNTDP Under-18 Team NAHL 35 2 10 12 75
2002-03 USNTDP Under-18 Team NAHL 9 2 5 7 12
2003-04 U. of Wisconsin WCHA 39 3 16 19 93
2004-05 Milwaukee Admirals AHL 63 7 16 23 70 7 1 5 6 16
2005-06 Nashville Predators NHL 71 1 15 16 66 -- -- -- -- --
2006-07 Nashville Predators NHL 82 8 16 24 54 5 1 0 1 8
2007-08 Nashville Predators NHL 76 7 24 31 71 6 1 1 2 4
2008-09 Nashville Predators NHL 82 7 38 45 73 -- -- -- -- --
2009-10 Nashville Predators NHL 82 4 33 37 48 6 0 0 0 0
2010-11 Nashville Predators NHL 70 4 35 39 54 12 1 5 6 6
2011-12 Nashville Predators NHL 79 7 39 46 30 10 1 3 4 4
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NHL Totals 542 38 200 238 396 39 4 9 13 22
Below are his stats. He's averaged 34 points over 7 full seasons (makes me feel old to think Suter's played 7 full seasons already). Over the last 4 seasons he's average 42 points. He's never scored more the 8 goals and has averaged 6 goals over the last 6 seasons. On the offensive side of an elite D-Man, these are not elite numbers, yet Suts earned elite dollars and enjoys elite recognition. So how do we grade him as the Wild's #1 D-Man? I'm not sure.
I would be willing to bet Roman Josi's full year stats next year meet or exceed Suter's 42 points. On the d-side, my lovely wife and aggressive Pred fan has always complained to me about Suter's defensive lapses and doesn't understand how he's attained this elite status. Shutdown defense is difficult to capture in stats, so it's in the eye of the beholder.
So I ask, how do we judge success for Ryan Suter, #1 D-Man for hte Minnesota Wild?
Ryan Suter
Defense
Born Jan 21 1985 -- Madison, WI
Height 6.01 -- Weight 195
Selected by Nashville Predators round 1 #7 overall 2003 NHL Entry Draft
--- Regular Season --- ---- Playoffs ----
Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
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2001-02 USNTDP Under-18 Team NAHL 35 2 10 12 75
2002-03 USNTDP Under-18 Team NAHL 9 2 5 7 12
2003-04 U. of Wisconsin WCHA 39 3 16 19 93
2004-05 Milwaukee Admirals AHL 63 7 16 23 70 7 1 5 6 16
2005-06 Nashville Predators NHL 71 1 15 16 66 -- -- -- -- --
2006-07 Nashville Predators NHL 82 8 16 24 54 5 1 0 1 8
2007-08 Nashville Predators NHL 76 7 24 31 71 6 1 1 2 4
2008-09 Nashville Predators NHL 82 7 38 45 73 -- -- -- -- --
2009-10 Nashville Predators NHL 82 4 33 37 48 6 0 0 0 0
2010-11 Nashville Predators NHL 70 4 35 39 54 12 1 5 6 6
2011-12 Nashville Predators NHL 79 7 39 46 30 10 1 3 4 4
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NHL Totals 542 38 200 238 396 39 4 9 13 22