Josh Leivo appreciation thread

[Trapper]

will be the jvr replacement next season so i'm happy we re-signed him

I don't think I've ever seen a player who is a future replacement (JVR level replacement or not) who doesn't play on the team in some capacity or in any other league for that matter.
Take a year off Josh. We good next year. That's pretty bad when you think of it. Not good enough for 1 of 8 spots on the team and he's a JVR replacement?

 

[rent free]

Haven't given it much thought. I don't really care if he plays or not, I don't get why so many do.

because he deserves a shot and hes better than matt martin and hyman offensively. hyman is a career 0.41 ppg player which is 33pts/82 games while leivo is a 0.52 ppg player which is 43 pts/pg pace. hyman plays with matthews and leivo plays with moore in case you forgot

 

[rent free]

I don't think I've ever seen a player who is a future replacement (JVR level replacement or not) who doesn't play on the team in some capacity or in any other league for that matter.
Take a year off Josh. We good next year. That's pretty bad when you think of it. Not good enough for 1 of 8 spots on the team and he's a JVR replacement?

he isn't better offensively than jvr and marleau and he doesn't fit the 4th line role well. thats why he's a healthy scratch. when he's in the lineup he also gets pp time

 

[Apollo Leaf]

When I seen the thread title I thought Leivo had been traded.

But yeah, he needs playing time. Whether it’s with the Leafs, Marlies or somewhere else. It’s a sin to keep him in the press box for almost an entire season.

 

[Trapper]

he isn't better offensively than jvr and marleau and he doesn't fit the 4th line role well. thats why he's a healthy scratch. when he's in the lineup he also gets pp time

Still you think you'd give Kappy or Leivo a little time in a more prominent position considering you have 4 UFAs next year. You are going to possibly lose Bozak,JVR,Komarov,Moore and you have guys that are NHL green expected to contribute right off the hop. It's very hard to judge if you take a step forward or back like that. Then if you sign a UFA to replace JVR, what happens then?

 

[rent free]

Still you think you'd give Kappy or Leivo a little time in a more prominent position considering you have 4 UFAs next year. You are going to possibly lose Bozak,JVR,Komarov,Moore and you have guys that are NHL green expected to contribute right off the hop. It's very hard to judge if you take a step forward or back like that. Then if you sign a UFA to replace JVR, what happens then?

the first part no. you're gonna play your best players regardless of whether they're pending ufa's or not.

the second part, unlikely. a guy to replace him non-internally will be given a big contract and thats what needs to not happen/most likely wont happen.

 

[ottomaddox]

I actually thought this thread was old and that you had to clear the cobwebs off of it.

 

[Trapper]

the first part no. you're gonna play your best players regardless of whether they're pending ufa's or not.

the second part, unlikely. a guy to replace him non-internally will be given a big contract and thats what needs to not happen/most likely wont happen.

Then if they aren't your best players, why are you losing your best for possibly nothing. That's another issue entirely. Cause if these guys fall flat and you're not signing someone, are you moving forward, staying the same or moving back. It's planning beyond the moment.

 

[rent free]

Then if they aren't your best players, why are you losing your best for possibly nothing. That's another issue entirely. Cause if these guys fall flat and you're not signing someone, are you moving forward, staying the same or moving back. It's planning beyond the moment.

because management believes we are good enough to compete this year.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Haven't given it much thought. I don't really care if he plays or not, I don't get why so many do.

I'd just like to see him get a legit shot to see what he can do. With 3 or 4 guys possibly leaving next year it would be nice to know if he can step in or not.

 

[ACC1224]

Josh Leivo is the Nathan Dempsey of the current Leaf team.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Josh Leivo is the Nathan Dempsey of the current Leaf team.

Why make a thread about him then?

 

[Trapper]

because management believes we are good enough to compete this year.

Well then I will leave this discussion on your last thought.
I will know by June.

 

[Anthrax442]

will be the jvr replacement next season so i'm happy we re-signed him

 

[Menzinger]

Considering his usage he’s actually performed pretty well.

He was never going to be the driver of a line but I’d be fine with him being a replacement depth winger into next season. If he got extended usage with skilled linemates he’d likely produce - which is all you ask for at 800k salary

 

[Kiwi]

Why make a thread about him then?

A reasonable question, it does have a whiff of starting a thread to **** on the guy

 

[Battle Lin]

if you listen to nhl coaches and gm's talk, they very often mention speed, fast players, speed of the game, etc...being solid on your skates like leivo or martin will not do unless you got elite or at least great skills to make up for your speed...and as good as leivo's skills are, nothing is really elite or even that great, i mean he has good skills though

 

[Raging Bull]

I don't know about Leivo. When he plays, I don't like him, but his advanced stats and scoring numbers are pretty good over his career. I will say he seems to bring a good attitude, I've never read about him complaining about not getting in the lineup.

 

[CanadasTeam]

He wouldn't be around if they didn't like him.

Agreed. If they didn't he would be having beers with Richard Panik right now.

 

[LeafsNation75]

I think it's clear Babs doesn't like him.

I'd really like to see him in the line up or traded to someone who can use him.

So how come they signed him to a 1 year contract extension for next season?

 

[GardinerTheForward]

I appreciate you Josh.

 

[Mr Hockey]

I dont think he is quick/consistent enough to play on next year's and beyond leafs team. I always liked Levio and think he can be a 15~20 goal scorer playing in a system that fits his skill set.

 

[Anthrax442]

We appreciate him, but let's not get nuts here. If he was any good, he'd be a regular.

 

[thewave]

He is well compensated for dedicating his life to the Game. He will have made 2.5 million less taxes by the time he is 26yrs old. No matter the event, he is in good shape financially.

 

[Spirit of 67]

So how come they signed him to a 1 year contract extension for next season?

Protect the asset.