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Player Discussion: Josh Bailey
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Sparksrus3
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well let’s just say you win because at least you guessed . Sam Gagner is the answer . Career stats almost identical to our guy . If we had Sam instead of Josh would he be an Islanders HOF player ? If Josh was anywhere else would he be pretty much out of the league ? I know , I know , Josh has sooo much hockey sense and is always in position defensively and that means a lot too.
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How about you look a little closer at their comparative stats - how about seeing how each player has progressed in their careers - here are accumulated stats post 25 years old or post 27 years of age?
GP. G. A Pts. PTs/PPG
| 459 | 88 | 211 | 299 | 0.651416122 |
| 308 | 61 | 165 | 226 | 0.7337662338 |
Bottom row is the statline after turning 27
Here is Gagner -
GP. G. A Pts. PTs/PPG
| 363 | 63 | 101 | 164 | 0.4517906336 |
| 229 | 40 | 67 | 107 | 0.4672489083 |
Wow that shows a different story
Well, more the difference is that Josh has 170 points over the last 3 seasons and Gagner has 57. Also, Gagner has 4 career playoff points (11 games), whereas Bailey has 10 points in 9 games just this year. Pretty easy to see why one is held in notably higher regard and pretty hard to say they should currently be viewed as comparable players, without even needing to look beyond points. Which remains true even if Gagner did score at a higher pace than Bailey did at the start of their careers.
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Top row is from 2014-2015 and on
Bottom row is from 2016-2017 and on
2 seasons 151 games
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Wasn’t Gagner strictly an offensive player? Don’t recall watching him much but I’m pretty sure they’re 2 very different players.
Either way I think what makes Bailey a bigger deal to Isles fans is his story. The development or lack-thereof in the beginning. Playing in JT’s shadow and quickly becoming the team scapegoat.
Suddenly it’s “hey Bailey actually looks like an NHLer”, and then “hey Bailey looks like he could be a solid middle six player”, then “hey Bailey could actually be a complimentary top-six player”, then “holy shit Bailey is actually pretty freaking good”.
All the while the guy just goes out there and does his thing. Never got down when the fans were on him. Kept working and kept improving. Suddenly he’s our longest tenured player. Gotta respect it.
I’d be more than content if Bailey spends his entire career here. Dude bleeds orange and blue.
Either way I think what makes Bailey a bigger deal to Isles fans is his story. The development or lack-thereof in the beginning. Playing in JT’s shadow and quickly becoming the team scapegoat.
Suddenly it’s “hey Bailey actually looks like an NHLer”, and then “hey Bailey looks like he could be a solid middle six player”, then “hey Bailey could actually be a complimentary top-six player”, then “holy shit Bailey is actually pretty freaking good”.
All the while the guy just goes out there and does his thing. Never got down when the fans were on him. Kept working and kept improving. Suddenly he’s our longest tenured player. Gotta respect it.
I’d be more than content if Bailey spends his entire career here. Dude bleeds orange and blue.
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Do you mean like general chatter about the possibility, or chatter today about an actual trade?
He is one of, if not the only, highly paid guys on the team with no NTC.
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Out of the forward group he makes the most sense because he doesn't have any trade protection. He wouldn't just be a cap dump though.
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Good thing we've waited, the return wouldn't be as good seven years ago.
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Maybe Cheveldayoff thinks Josh is a C.
Or, how about Bailey and Mayfield for Marner?
If Toronto retains some salary.
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During these playoffs he was a top performer of these Islanders and arguably their best forward. Good thing no one with any control of this team traded Bailey over the 7 years some of you hacks have been pining for.
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Wasn't that Jamie Benn doing a great impersonation of Bailey on that 2 on 1 in Game 5's OT?
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