Value of: Jordan Greenway
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charliemurphy
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What makes you think Minnesota would trade Greenway and not sign him long term?
2Pair
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If it were up to me, Greenway wouldn't be available for anything close to realistic value.
Field of Dreams
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I'm not aware of Minnesota's intentions. This is why I'm asking!
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This would be the case if it were up to me as well.
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Welp, so much for anything coming out of this thread.
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Let’s be honest, nothing was coming out of this thread anyway
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True, but it's usually a Leaf fan that starts the shit posting.
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There is really no reason for the Wild to trade him in the slightest.
He doesn't have the value to get anything "great", and what would be the point of trading him for a prospect of similar value. Especially when a prospect of similar value, probably doesn't have the thing that makes Greenway unique, his size/skill combo.
He doesn't have the value to get anything "great", and what would be the point of trading him for a prospect of similar value. Especially when a prospect of similar value, probably doesn't have the thing that makes Greenway unique, his size/skill combo.
Field of Dreams
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I figured it would be closer to a player like Kapanen or Johnsson. Is there any interest in either?
It's highly unlikely that Greenway is traded. He has an impact on the ice beyond his stats, for those who don't get to watch him and only look at the boxes. He is still a pup, and adding strength and coordination to his massive frame, yet is already doing some jaw dropping things defensively and puck protection wise due to his strength and reach.
In other words, trading him now would be unwise. While he might not end up being a first line player, odds are good that will be a difference making 2nd liner. Just hope the Wild don't screw up his development and try to make him a C, like they did with Coyle.
For those who haven't seen him, think of a LH Coyle, but add 3" in height, God knows how much in reach, and eventually, probably about 20-25 lbs.
In other words, trading him now would be unwise. While he might not end up being a first line player, odds are good that will be a difference making 2nd liner. Just hope the Wild don't screw up his development and try to make him a C, like they did with Coyle.
For those who haven't seen him, think of a LH Coyle, but add 3" in height, God knows how much in reach, and eventually, probably about 20-25 lbs.
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Their intentions are to build a new young forward core around the newly acquired and existing 20-23 year olds. Based on early performance Greenway is one of the biggest pieces of that core, no pun intended. He'd be available for a legit return only, something you aren't comfortable giving up, and no combination of picks as a major piece coming back as any pick would just be a hope of ending up with a player of his ability and potential.
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if you want a slam-dunk yes - Marner
which Leafs obviously don't do
Greenaway wasn't a 1st round pick, but now that he has affirmed his value,
no real reason for Wild to move him, so you're leading to "an offer they can't refuse"
You could try with a package including either of the recent 1st round Swede D (Liljegren, Sandin) plus a young forward to fill the gap Greenaway would leave behind, plus a middling pick, and Wild still might feel that its not worth it.
While to Leafs and their fans, that would feel like a huge overpay.
Players with size, spunk and skill are darn hard to find.
Would I love to reunite coach Quinn w Greenaway? yes
Do it think NYR could do it by combing 2d round picks and B+ prospects - no
Any compelling price would begin with one of their ~7 1st rounders from '17, '18, '19
otherwise why should Wild do it?
which Leafs obviously don't do
Greenaway wasn't a 1st round pick, but now that he has affirmed his value,
no real reason for Wild to move him, so you're leading to "an offer they can't refuse"
You could try with a package including either of the recent 1st round Swede D (Liljegren, Sandin) plus a young forward to fill the gap Greenaway would leave behind, plus a middling pick, and Wild still might feel that its not worth it.
While to Leafs and their fans, that would feel like a huge overpay.
Players with size, spunk and skill are darn hard to find.
Would I love to reunite coach Quinn w Greenaway? yes
Do it think NYR could do it by combing 2d round picks and B+ prospects - no
Any compelling price would begin with one of their ~7 1st rounders from '17, '18, '19
otherwise why should Wild do it?
Field of Dreams
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I understand, Greenway does have a unique skillset. Not that I assume Minnesota wants draft picks, but for context, what would the add need to be in terms of draft picks?
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Fair offer, but I hope the Wild say no, though their speed and scoring would be welcome! They need the size and strength of Greenway, however, especially in the Central playing Bang Bang Crash with WPG and STL. Fiala, Donato, and Zucker aren't going to make anyone back off in the corners.
Also don't want any part of the increased cap that will come with Kapanen, nor would the Wild want another LHS wing, which they are swimming in.
I would be upset if they traded him for anything less than a top 10 1st. He's just a unique player. Can easily see him ending up being like a slightly less offensive Tuch, but with far better defense and physicality. That's a pretty cool package. He's not an offensive game changer, but I think he will be in other ways.
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DeagleJenkins
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figured it would be faster if i bring the leafs fans anger out before they bring ours out.
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DeagleJenkins
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marner was really just a response to you and 2pair saying overpay which he clearly would be. as much as kapanen has more scoring touch right now than greenway does it really make sense to trade greenway for him? not really without more overpayment and in some leafs fans eyes kapenen might be overpayment based on stats alone.
Field of Dreams
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A 1st is probably a little too steep for me considering the value of Kapanen/Johnsson. I would do a second.
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It’s not a negotiation. That’s the minimum it would take.
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