Jonathan Dahlen

[Fistfullofbeer]

The level of hockey isn’t terrible but it is not where he belongs. You don’t get development when you stomp on everyone in a league

I think it is fine it is a temporary spot this season where he can get his confidence back. If he stays there next year, I would seriously start questioning his mental toughness to make in the NHL. Even the best players have down years where they struggle.

 

[NJ Fan 12]

Any news on him? Scoring at a ridiculous pace to start the year for Timra.

CapFriendly lists him as an unrestricted free agent. Is he still in Allsvenskan under the assumption that he is heading to North America once the season starts or is he set to remain in Sweden?

 

[STL Shark]

Any news on him? Scoring at a ridiculous pace to start the year for Timra.

CapFriendly lists him as an unrestricted free agent. Is he still in Allsvenskan under the assumption that he is heading to North America once the season starts or is he set to remain in Sweden?

He's an RFA that has not yet signed his QO. Will likely remain on the restricted list until he comes to North America following his season in Allsvenskan where he will sign a deal and get some NHL games in most likely (like he was slated to pre-COVID shutdown this past season).

 

[Patty Ice]

Awesome Sheng article on Dahlen. Keep up the great work man @Sheng Peng !!

Jonathan Dahlen: “I was a little small before.”

The 5-foot-11 winger also admitted: “I was a little small before…Now I feel stronger and more all-round fit.”
This jibes with what San Jose Hockey Now was told last month about Dahlen’s conditioning: “A source tells me that Jonathan himself feels ready to challenge for a full-time NHL spot soon — which suggests to me that his training this past summer has gone well and he’s made a leap physically.”

 

[StanleyCup2035]

Awesome Sheng article on Dahlen. Keep up the great work man @Sheng Peng !!

Jonathan Dahlen: “I was a little small before.”

He wouldn’t want to be small once he scores a 4 goal cocktrick on the Sharks

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

Save us Jonathan Dahlen.

 

[DG93]

He wouldn’t want to be small once he scores a 4 goal cocktrick on the Sharks

His training was multi-faceted eh

 

[Mattb124]

Awesome Sheng article on Dahlen. Keep up the great work man @Sheng Peng !!

Jonathan Dahlen: “I was a little small before.”

If you've seen Austin Powers, it is well-known the Swedes have a pump for this.

 

[Anomie2029]

To put Dahlen's performance in perspective.

Sorensen is playing in the same league and has 13 points in 8 games.

 

[matt trick]

Awesome Sheng article on Dahlen. Keep up the great work man @Sheng Peng !!

Jonathan Dahlen: “I was a little small before.”

The right handed forward article is a good read too. I'd have guessed championship teams are more evenly distributed between L/R on average.

I'd argue with only Kevin Labanc in the top 9, we're still short at least one, but maybe the bigger issue is the lack of play-makers. If we added Palat and had another Donskoi, I'd probably be happy even if everyone but Labanc was a LHS.

No one is going to complain about Meier, Kane, and Couture as trigger guys, but we're pretty light on guys who can create for their teammates outside Hertl and Labanc.

 

[matt trick]

To put Dahlen's performance in perspective.

Sorensen is playing in the same league and has 13 points in 8 games.

Lol, I can't decide if that makes me more or less excited!

 

[Barrie22]

To put Dahlen's performance in perspective.

Sorensen is playing in the same league and has 13 points in 8 games.

So his skills are roughly the same as sorenson? Who is nothing better then a wasted roster spot in the nhl?

Yup that excites me.

 

[Cas]

So his skills are roughly the same as sorenson? Who is nothing better then a wasted roster spot in the nhl?

Yup that excites me.

I don't think anyone's saying that, and a one-to-one comparison is not exactly robust.

 

[Desert Eagle]

We may compare Dahlen with Kellman too. Joel has 2 points in 9 games in the same league. So I don’t think these comparisons are correct.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

You guys think a 2.29 ppg and a 1.63 ppg are just the same thing?

 

[Barrie22]

I don't think anyone's saying that, and a one-to-one comparison is not exactly robust.

It shows that the league he is in, is basically garbage. Nothing to get excited about if someone as bad as sorenson can dominate the same league.

 

[Cas]

It shows that the league he is in, is basically garbage. Nothing to get excited about if someone as bad as sorenson can dominate the same league.

Marcus Sorensen performing extremely well in a league is not a sufficient data point to prove that a league is "basically garbage" and that therefore anyone succeeding in that league is "nothing to get excited about." That's literally one data point.

To add to that, this is an extremely small sample size. Sorensen has dominated in eight games. Dahlen has dominated for his last 59 games, and dominated in 103 games (16-18) before coming over to the AHL.

 

[Gecklund]

Marcus Sorensen performing extremely well in a league is not a sufficient data point to prove that a league is "basically garbage" and that therefore anyone succeeding in that league is "nothing to get excited about." That's literally one data point.

To add to that, this is an extremely small sample size. Sorensen has dominated in eight games. Dahlen has dominated for his last 59 games, and dominated in 103 games (16-18) before coming over to the AHL.

Also Dahlen is 6 years younger than Sorensen.

 

[Cas]

Also Dahlen is 6 years younger than Sorensen.

Also true, but I think "don't judge a complex system by a single data point" and "don't judge a single data point on the basis of a small sample size" are important considerations.

 

[Negatively Positive]

Sorenson did pot 17 goals in the best league in the world 2 seasons ago. He's not that bad. If Dahlen can become a consistent 15-20 goal scorer we'd take it.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

If Kevin Labanc scores 20 goals, its great. Dahlen? Nothing to get excited about, send him and Sorensen back to Sweden

 

[Captain Serious]

I did an analysis like four years back (and read an article a couple years back) on allsvenskan NHLe numbers to predict production of an allsvenskan player coming to the NHL. I used proxy leagues (the conversion of allsvenskan to ahl then nhl or to shl then nhl) since there aren’t many instances of a player coming straight from allsvenskan to the nhl.

The NHLe I got (which ended up being similar to an article that came out a couple years later) was .43 putting it in a similar difficulty level of the AHL.

Using these numbers, Dahlen’s numbers last year would’ve been the equivalent of 53 points, and this year it would be 80 points if he can keep up his production but it’s a small sample size. I expect his production to drop and I believe he’ll have issues translating all that production to the NHL given concerns over his skating, but his NHLe is higher than any other sharks prospect and if he can translate his play style to the NHL he has the most upside, outside of Merkley, to be an impact player out of the sharks as of now I think.

 

[Barrie22]

I did an analysis like four years back (and read an article a couple years back) on allsvenskan NHLe numbers to predict production of an allsvenskan player coming to the NHL. I used proxy leagues (the conversion of allsvenskan to ahl then nhl or to shl then nhl) since there aren’t many instances of a player coming straight from allsvenskan to the nhl.

The NHLe I got (which ended up being similar to an article that came out a couple years later) was .43 putting it in a similar difficulty level of the AHL.

Using these numbers, Dahlen’s numbers last year would’ve been the equivalent of 53 points, and this year it would be 80 points if he can keep up his production but it’s a small sample size. I expect his production to drop and I believe he’ll have issues translating all that production to the NHL given concerns over his skating, but his NHLe is higher than any other sharks prospect and if he can translate his play style to the NHL he has the most upside, outside of Merkley, to be an impact player out of the sharks as of now I think.

What does a .59 ahl ppg translate to the nhl?

 

[Cas]

What does a .59 ahl ppg translate to the nhl?

Roughly 0.25-0.3.

 

[ZEBROA]

Any thoughts about this dude coming over next season?