John Gibson or William Nylander

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Who would you rather have and add to your team at the same price (assets traded/given, cap space allocated)?

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[Michael HOMERUNing]

Elite goalie > elite winger

 

[Ctrain2k]

Gibson for sure

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Elite goalie > elite winger

goalies are the least valuable position because of how much risk there is. You might think you have an elite goalie, and then all of a sudden they put up a .904 sv% and .894 sv% in back to back seasons

 

[bobholly39]

as a habs fan we have absolutely no need for another goalie. So Nylander.

In a vacuum, it's closer.

 

[CatchyTune]

Nylander has more trade value. but there is an argument Gibson is more valuable on ice.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Since the OP asked about my team specifically and not necessarily "value", I'd take Nylander for the Pens.

I'm fine with Jarry/DeSmith, so even though Gibson's an upgrade, it's not really a position of dire need. Adding Nylander, however, would suddenly push a guy like Kapanen down to the third line, giving the Pens a really, really deep top 9.

 

[Hisch13r]

Nylander because Blackwood

 

[Canovin]

Nylander could steal 5 games out of 82 games for teams. 5 games where you could catch yourself saying, wow Nylander is the best player on the ice. Gibson could probably steal 15 games on his own

 

[HockeyVirus]

Nylander has grown as a player. He went from the Don Cherry typical Swede to a guy who plays hard most nights. Sometimes he is frustrating as shit to watch when he plays soft. Then Keefe sits his ass for a period and he is a monster on the puck.

Gibson had some elite seasons but he is owed 6 more years at his cap hit and has put up backup to 3rd string numbers 2 seasons in a row. Some might take Gibson if they really needed a goalie, but for most fans you have to think you take the guy worth his deal of the guy who COULD be worth his deal.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

If im starting a team from scratch, Gibson no question.

Not having to worry about who is going to get the job done in net is a big load off my chest.

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

goalies are the least valuable position because of how much risk there is. You might think you have an elite goalie, and then all of a sudden they put up a .904 sv% and .894 sv% in back to back seasons

Save percentage is almost as much of a team stat as goals against average - and more so than goaltender wins

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

For the Rangers I guess Nylander because i believe in Shesty but if I was starting team from the ground up, def Gibson

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

goalies are the least valuable position because of how much risk there is. You might think you have an elite goalie, and then all of a sudden they put up a .904 sv% and .894 sv% in back to back seasons

they're riskier to invest in but an elite goalie is far more valuable. St. Louis won the Stanley Cup because they found a goalie. If they had stuck with Allen and instead added a 70ish point winger like Nylander, they don't get that cup.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

they're riskier to invest in but an elite goalie is far more valuable. St. Louis won the Stanley Cup because they found a goalie. If they had stuck with Allen and instead added a 70ish point winger like Nylander, they don't get that cup.

If they pan out.

Is Binnington actually an elite goalie, or did he have an elite run that year? We're kind of seeing since that Cup run just how unpredictable goalies are with how Binnington's performance has been since then.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

Save percentage is almost as much of a team stat as goals against average - and more so than goaltender wins

not sure how save percentage is more team dependent than wins, but what metric would you want to use to evaluate goaltending?

 

[LeafGrief]

An elite goalie is worth more than an elite 1st line winger. I don't think I'd refer to either of these players as elite, and Nylander absolutely has more trade value of the two today. Gibson was an elite goalie a few years ago, but hasn't been that player for a year and a half now, with a long and expensive contract. He's got a worse save percentage than Bernier on the Red Wings, or Ullmark on the Sabres, or than Andersen ever did for the years that the Leafs D was a meme.

If he bounces back and is elite again, he's worth more than Nylander. But if he doesn't, 6.4m with term is an anchor deal for a goalie. I voted Nylander, because I would not trade Nylander for Gibson today. I would absolutely trade for Gibson though.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Question is kinda weird, maybe should have who would you choose to start a franchise, or who is more valuable to a team?


This way is awkward for any team that has a solid goalie

 

[dukeofjive]

Gibson instead of price where do i sign up

 

[82Ninety42011]

Nylander has more trade value. but there is an argument Gibson is more valuable on ice.

Pretty much these goalie's just don't return anything close to what you'd think. Skaters though could be less valuable on the ice will always return more than the goalie. Roy at his peak returned 3 NHL regulars but not a star among them. Heck Keane was even sent with Roy a solid role player.

 

[Zenos]

Oilers:
I'd probably take Gibson. 27 year old top-end goalie? Yes please.

And I'm a big fan of Nylander. He'd look fantastic on RW with any one of McDavid, Nuge, or Draisaitl (or some combination of the three). But at the end of the day there's only so many top-6 spots, and the team has holes elsewhere.

 

[McAsuno]

Gibson AINEC

 

[CatchyTune]

Pretty much these goalie's just don't return anything close to what you'd think. Skaters though could be less valuable on the ice will always return more than the goalie. Roy at his peak returned 3 NHL regulars but not a star among them. Heck Keane was even sent with Roy a solid role player.

yeah exactly. i think Gibson could be better on ice but i have no doubt in my mind Nylander has higher trade value.

 

[nobody]

Gibson of 3 years ago >>>> Nylander. Gibson right now is Freddy level bad even with a bad Ducks team. I've watched enough Ducks game this year to know that he's just gotten his clock cleaned out on multiple occasions and let in absolutely atrocious goals. I wouldn't give up Willy for this version of Gibson. 3 years ago when he was absolutely dominant? Sure, I'd throw Nylander ++ at that.

 

[Space Coyote]

Elite goalie > elite winger

Gibson hasn't been elite for over two seasons now.