Confirmed with Link: Johansen signs 3-year deal (4.0M AAV)

[1857 Howitzer]

I was actually more concerned about him hurting the team. It's not as if he's coming off injury.

That's a concern too for sure.

 

[DarkandStormy]

yeah, lets throw him out there regardless of his game readiness and watch him pull a groin muscle or worse. What's one more on IR?

I guess you'd sit Phil Kessel too, ya?

 

[Nanabijou]

I guess you'd sit Phil Kessel too, ya?

Kessel attended his whole training camp, and used camp to get himself up to speed. Joey, on the other hand....

 

[KJ Dangler]

Aaron Portzline ‏@Aportzline 25m25 minutes ago
Told #CBJ not pleased with Ryan Johansen's conditioning level. Asked GM Jarmo Kekalainen about it: "No comment."

Hope the dude doesnt injure himself, seems like hes being put in the lineup by default of not being injured.

 

[EspenK]

Aaron Portzline ‏@Aportzline 25m25 minutes ago
Told #CBJ not pleased with Ryan Johansen's conditioning level. Asked GM Jarmo Kekalainen about it: "No comment."

Hope the dude doesnt injure himself, seems like hes being put in the lineup by default of not being injured.

What does he expect for $3 mill?

 

[Jive Pawnbroker]

Aaron Portzline ‏@Aportzline 25m25 minutes ago
Told #CBJ not pleased with Ryan Johansen's conditioning level. Asked GM Jarmo Kekalainen about it: "No comment."

That is VERY disappointing to learn. It's not like he had better things to do during his holdout than to stay in shape.

Ryan, you had one job and apparently couldn't even do that...

 

[EspenK]

That is VERY disappointing to learn. It's not like he had better things to do during his holdout than to stay in shape.

Ryan, you had one job and apparently couldn't even do that...

You aren't suggesting that he has a 'tude problem? If so the pro-Joeys will be out to force you to footnote with at least an op cit as to where you got your info.

 

[CBJSlash]

Looks like we are winning arbitration 2017.

I keed.

 

[blahblah]

Aaron Portzline ‏@Aportzline 25m25 minutes ago
Told #CBJ not pleased with Ryan Johansen's conditioning level. Asked GM Jarmo Kekalainen about it: "No comment."

Anyone surprised? Oh well.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

That is VERY disappointing to learn. It's not like he had better things to do during his holdout than to stay in shape.

Ryan, you had one job and apparently couldn't even do that...

Actually, he didn't have a job. He'd been unemployed since June.

If he's ready by November, then he'll be ahead of the majority of the projected top 6 on this team.

He, like most players who missed an entire training camp, aren't going to be in the condition which they would have. It might take him a week or so to get there. So what.

 

[Ar-too]

Actually, he didn't have a job. He'd been unemployed since June.

If he's ready by November, then he'll be ahead of the majority of the projected top 6 on this team.

Oh puh-leeeeeeeze.

 

[KJ Dangler]

Actually, he didn't have a job. He'd been unemployed since June.

If he's ready by November, then he'll be ahead of the majority of the projected top 6 on this team.

Thats absurd honestly, he held out to get a average of 4.2 mill over next 4 years. The thread has been filled with comments of how the coaching staff/ fo had to put a foot on his butt for 2 years as he basically didnt meet there expectations with his effort and consistency, which came to a head with his benching in Springfield, and it turns out hes not in shape, and you go to this card. As Chris Carter would say, C'mon man.

 

[KJ Dangler]

Actually, he didn't have a job. He'd been unemployed since June.

If he's ready by November, then he'll be ahead of the majority of the projected top 6 on this team.

He, like most players who missed an entire training camp, aren't going to be in the condition which they would have. It might take him a week or so to get there. So what.

Should the jackets prorate, and not pay him his 3 mill, based on needing a month to get in shape.

 

[PubOFH]

http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com/content/blogs/puck-rakers/2014/10/a.m.-1-buffalo.html

EXACTLY what I expected!!!!! Another Zherdev with blond hair. Are we sure Johansen isnt from Russia???

Johansen missed all of camp and all eight exhibition games. The Blue Jackets, privately, are said to be not pleased with Johansen's conditioning level.
Asked that question pointedly this morning, GM Jarmo Kekalainen said: "No comment."

 

[CBJWerenski8]

http://bluejacketsxtra.dispatch.com/content/blogs/puck-rakers/2014/10/a.m.-1-buffalo.html

EXACTLY what I expected!!!!! Another Zherdev with blond hair. Are we sure Johansen isnt from Russia???

Take your stereotypical NA hockey analyst bias out of here and take a chill pill. How is he supposed to be able to keep in shape with NHL players who were practicing and playing against NHL players when Johansen was skating with a bunch of juniors in Vancouver. Please be quiet.

 

[Ar-too]

How is he supposed to be able to keep in shape with NHL players who were practicing and playing against NHL players when Johansen was skating with a bunch of juniors in Vancouver. Please be quiet.

A running track? Treadmill? They have skating rinks in Canada, no? Conditioning does not require games. It requires training. If he's out of shape, that's his fault.

 

[WannabeFinn]

We'll all see how in or out of shape he really is tonight, no?

 

[Cyclones Rock]

A running track? Treadmill? They have skating rinks in Canada, no? Conditioning does not require games. It requires training. If he's out of shape, that's his fault.

There's a big difference between off ice training and on ice conditioning which isn't in a structured environment.

We'll see what type of shape he's in tonite based on TOI. The comments by management could be based on lingering bitterness from the holdout/negotiations.

If Johansen isn't up to 16-18 minutes of TOI by game 4 or so, then one may have some cause to impugn his conditioning efforts.

Anyone who expected him to be in the equivalent shape of a player who had attended all of camp and played in multiple exhibitions is not being realistic. Perhaps management should have kept this in mind when they were being recalcitrant in the negotiations.

He's in better shape than half of the projected top 6 no matter where he really stands in the conditioning department.

 

[elmariachi227]

Anyone who expected him to be in the equivalent shape of a player who had attended all of camp and played in multiple exhibitions is not being realistic.

He's in better shape than half of the projected top 6 no matter where he really stands in the conditioning department.

what

 

[Ar-too]

There's a big difference between off ice training and on ice conditioning which isn't in a structured environment.

There's being in game shape, and there's being in good shape. I understand they are different things. Based on management's comments, perhaps the player doesn't.

We'll see what type of shape he's in tonite based on TOI. The comments by management could be based on lingering bitterness from the holdout/negotiations.

They could, but it would be incredibly unhelpful for them to purposefully aid these sentiments to fester considering there's a three year contract in place.

If Johansen isn't up to 16-18 minutes of TOI by game 4 or so, then one may have some cause to impugn his conditioning efforts.

Can I hold you to that?

Anyone who expected him to be in the equivalent shape of a player who had attended all of camp and played in multiple exhibitions is not being realistic. Perhaps management should have kept this in mind when they were being recalcitrant in the negotiations.

Your first sentence here does not support the second. Kindof like you saying he didn't have a job since he didn't have a contract. It's impossible for anyone to take a less professional approach to one's career than to think, "Nobody's paying me, so I don't have to do ****."

He's in better shape than half of the projected top 6 no matter where he really stands in the conditioning department.

This is at least the second time you've said this, and it doesn't make any more sense to me now than it did the first time.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

A running track? Treadmill? They have skating rinks in Canada, no? Conditioning does not require games. It requires training. If he's out of shape, that's his fault.

He's not in game shape, as in he can't skate up and down the ice taking hits and keeping up with NHL players for a full 60. That's it. There's no way he could have practiced or trained for that unless he was here, playing and practicing against NHL players

 

[IHeartZherdev*]

Thats absurd honestly, he held out to get a average of 4.2 mill over next 4 years. The thread has been filled with comments of how the coaching staff/ fo had to put a foot on his butt for 2 years as he basically didnt meet there expectations with his effort and consistency, which came to a head with his benching in Springfield, and it turns out hes not in shape, and you go to this card. As Chris Carter would say, C'mon man.

He was benched in Springfield once? You don't say....

 

[IHeartZherdev*]

A running track? Treadmill? They have skating rinks in Canada, no? Conditioning does not require games. It requires training. If he's out of shape, that's his fault.

You are basing all this nonsense on a quote from Jarmo, the guy who traded Marian Gaborik for Matt Frattin. How about we see the kid play in a game and then judge what kind of shape he's in?

 

[thebus2288*]

Should've hired Umberger as a personal trainer/off season coach

 

[WannabeFinn]

You are basing all this nonsense on a quote from Jarmo, the guy who traded Marian Gaborik for Matt Frattin. How about we see the kid play in a game and then judge what kind of shape he's in?

What does trading Marian Gaborik away have to do with his credibility when it comes to making claims about Johansen's physical readiness? And Portzy is the one who "was told" that they weren't happy with Joey's conditioning, Jarmo never actually said anything about it publicly