Jiri Tlusty

[the halleJOKEL]

What's wrong with his ankle?

 

[rocky7]

Corvo, in the role he was brought in for, did not hurt us this year. It wasn't until he started playing against top lines with Gleason that he got beat up on. But what 3rd pairing dman isn't going to struggle in that situation?

His 6 goals and 11 assists weren't too shabby either. Again, when he was in his proper slotting, he was much more effective in that department too. Still, more points than than Sangs/McBain combined.



Until you can replace Pitkanen, you can't get rid of him. He's one of 3 guys we have who can hold his own against high end talent. Pitkanen with the threat of being injured > No Pitkanen.

Basically, you're saying "I'd rather we just suck, rather than risk the chance we might suck."

That's not at all what I said. You know that. I said I doubt he will be effective anymore. He should be gone but I'm not sure if he has much value anymore. He is a problem and I'm not sure what will come of it.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

What's wrong with his ankle?

You mean the heel isn't the ankle?

But seriously there is reason for concern.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog...anes-consulted-pat-peake-after-joni-pitkanen/

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

What's wrong with his ankle?

It was broken in 8 places.

This article features a player with a similar injury (that ended his NHL career) who is optimistic that Pitkanen will return to full effectiveness, because Pitkanen opted to not do surgery.

LOL, mixed up heel and ankle. That makes me feel a bit better, I guess. Though we should still assume that Pitkanen won't return healthy.

 

[tarheelhockey]

There's no point in talking about getting rid of Pitkanen. Nobody is going to take a defenseman coming off that kind of injury with that kind of paycheck. We could probably send him through waivers right now.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

There's no point in talking about getting rid of Pitkanen. Nobody is going to take a defenseman coming off that kind of injury with that kind of paycheck. We could probably send him through waivers right now.

Correct. The real question is how much can the Canes count on him for next year and what (if any) measures do they need to take.

 

[the halleJOKEL]

You mean the heel isn't the ankle?

But seriously there is reason for concern.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog...anes-consulted-pat-peake-after-joni-pitkanen/

Well, of course. I was just being facetious regarding the ankle/heel thing.

 

[Joe McGrath]

There's no point in talking about getting rid of Pitkanen. Nobody is going to take a defenseman coming off that kind of injury with that kind of paycheck. We could probably send him through waivers right now.

Depends on how long Feaster has a job. Seriously though, an injury that could cause a guy who already appears to have a low pain threshold that might affect the rest of his life. That sucks a big one, especially on a play that doesn't need to exist (and doesn't in most leagues around the world)

 

[rocky7]

I can't see him recovering from this 'last straw' and has to be somehow moved. How that gets done is tricky for sure. The Hurricanes will likely lose in some way, but unfortunately it will have to happen.

 

[Ole Gil]

Reports say he should be back in 10-12 weeks in time for training camp.

HFBoards say: Career over!!! Some guy 17 years ago had something sort of like this happen, and he never recovered!! Therefore, Joni is done!!

Just like Ruutu was done for. Buy him out. Never be the same again. And now we're happily penciling him in next to Jordan because his physical game, and burgeoning chemistry with Staal are just what the team needs.

Modern Medicine, particularly the kind rich people get, is serious business. I certainly wouldn't bet against it in this day and age.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

While a few are saying things like "last straw" which is extreme, it's still fair to be concerned. Pitkanen misses a minimum of 10 games a year even when he's healthy and over the last two, he's missed even more. Now he's coming off an injury to his foot and skating is his best asset. I'm not saying the sky is falling, but the team shouldn't ignore the possibility that it might affect him either.

Since it's a contract year for him next year, hopefully he has a monster season.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

Reports say he should be back in 10-12 weeks in time for training camp.

HFBoards say: Career over!!! Some guy 17 years ago had something sort of like this happen, and he never recovered!! Therefore, Joni is done!!

Just like Ruutu was done for. Buy him out. Never be the same again. And now we're happily penciling him in next to Jordan because his physical game, and burgeoning chemistry with Staal are just what the team needs.

Modern Medicine, particularly the kind rich people get, is serious business. I certainly wouldn't bet against it in this day and age.

A guy who (let's be honest) is only in the NHL because he can skate faster and for greater periods of time than 95% of the competition suffers a severe injury that could impact that, and we shouldn't question it?

If JR does nothing, and Pitkanen is reduced in effectiveness, we're screwed. As in, we're icing a defense that has two players who wouldn't be waived/scratched/in the AHL on 25 of the other teams in the League. If he comes back ok, we're fine.

If JR does do something, and Pitkanen is reduced in effectiveness, we're fine. And if he does come back and we went out and got another defender, we're even better off.

The best course of action is for JR to get another player to replace Joni and then (and only then) hope Joni returns fully healthy.

 

[What the Faulk]

Reports say he should be back in 10-12 weeks in time for training camp.

HFBoards say: Career over!!! Some guy 17 years ago had something sort of like this happen, and he never recovered!! Therefore, Joni is done!!

Just like Ruutu was done for. Buy him out. Never be the same again. And now we're happily penciling him in next to Jordan because his physical game, and burgeoning chemistry with Staal are just what the team needs.

Modern Medicine, particularly the kind rich people get, is serious business. I certainly wouldn't bet against it in this day and age.

Cite your source. Last I saw was that JR thought that he'd be ready (and IIRC mentioned nothing about 10-12 weeks) but the surgeons weren't going to be sure if the surgery was successful for months.

There's no reason not to be wary of how this will affect him going forward. Should they dump him? Absolutely not. But he shouldn't be relied upon like he has been in the past. Recent projections having him as a #3-4 are likely to be very realistic. And even if it isn't necessarily the heel that he'll miss time with, he'll almost assuredly miss time.

 

[Ole Gil]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/2013/04/02/joni-pitkanen-hurt/2048191/

 

[What the Faulk]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/2013/04/02/joni-pitkanen-hurt/2048191/

That's an older article, prior to him even having surgery.

https://twitter.com/ice_chip/status/324562152809697280

Chip Alexander @ice_chip
Rutherford says Pitkanen had surgery Tuesday in Charlotte for broken heel bone. Won't know for few months if totally successful.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/04/18/2832069/canes-skinner-out-but-not-clear.html

Defenseman Joni Pitkanen, who suffered a broken heel bone April 2 against Washington, underwent surgery Tuesday in Charlotte. Rutherford said he was told the surgery was successful and Pitkanen should be ready for the start of preseason training camp.

Sounds like conflicting information. Regardless, the original 10-12 week estimate seems off.

And for what it's worth, has Pitkanen ever been ahead of or even on schedule in his returns from injury?

 

[Joe McGrath]

I posted in here about Pitkanen at some point and I just saw the thread title is JiriTlusty. WTF happened here?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I posted in here about Pitkanen at some point and I just saw the thread title is JiriTlusty. WTF happened here?

Both players have 4 letter first names that start with J and end in I?

 

[Ole Gil]

10-12 weeks is a few months is prior to training camp.

I'm not sure what this conflict is.

 

[tomdundo]

I posted in here about Pitkanen at some point and I just saw the thread title is JiriTlusty. WTF happened here?

No, really though. If there was a thread on this board that didn't get derailed, I'd be shocked.

 

[Joe McGrath]

No, really though. If there was a thread on this board that didn't get derailed, I'd be shocked.

This one just happened so quickly and inexplicably.....oh right...nevermind.

Ummm let's get this back on track, Chad is dreamier than Pitkanen sign him long term! Wait no that's not it, forget it I forgot what we were talking about again.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

[mod]

But do you disagree that Pitkanen's skating and endurance is his strongest asset?

 

[geehaad]

do you disagree that Pitkanen's skating and endurance is his strongest asset?

I'm not sure that I agree or disagree. Bret Hedican was a better skater, and it only got him so far. I might say his puck possession is his strongest asset.

However, that's not what you said. You said it was the only reason he's in the NHL. That is so wrong it deserved to be called out.

 

[Anton Babchuk]

Speaking of injury prone players, Erik Cole hasn't missed a game since 09-10 and Justin Williams has missed 9 games over the past three seasons.

Justin Williams tore his ACL twice, broke his leg and shattered his achilles tendon and doesn't seem to have much problem skating. But then again he's not a Lazy Soft Cancer Euro.

 

[rocky7]

Marc is gritty Canada kid. Semin is lazybones Russian. Know who else is from Russia? The Boston marathon bombers. I rest my case.

Huh? Even as a supposed joke, that's a statement about Russians I never expected to ever read.

 

[geehaad]

I LOLed.