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[BruinDust]

Great post, all I have to add though is that if the Bruins were to somehow come back and beat the panther's I couldn't care less what happens after that. Coming back down 3-1 after last year and the way this series has gone would be like a cup win for me

Thanks! I feel the same way as you do. Upset this dirt-bag Panther team and anything after that is gravy.

 

[KnightofBoston]

Thanks! I feel the same way as you do. Upset this dirt-bag Panther team and anything after that is gravy.

it's funny because I initially felt that way about the leaf's series/didnt feel any intense animosity towards florida or a need to win, but after the Panther's started their greasy bullshit and the refs gave them favorable calls, pasta got sucker punched with his head on the ice, and Marchand was concussed, I feel nothing but a boiling rage for south florida

 

[mjhfb]

According to Sportsnet, the Bruins play zone defense.

I think it's a symptom of Florida's shoot-from-everywhere game plan. The bounces, rebounds, loose pucks, etc. pull Bruins out of position and the longer Florida remains in the zone, the more and more out of position the Bruins are.

Systems Analyst: Breaking down the best defensive strategies for playoffs

Which defensive zone systems win Stanley Cups, and which have had less playoff success? Justin Bourne, with help from Andrew Brewer, looks at recent trends, what it means for this year's playoffs, and which teams may be most vulnerable.

www.sportsnet.ca

I do find it interesting that there are only two teams listed here who play man-to-man, NYR and Carolina. The Bruins are a combined 1-5 vs. them this season and the last time the Bruins played the Rangers, their man-to-man D smothered the Bruin players. If the Bruins find a way to pull this series out of a hat, it doesn't bode well that the one of the two teams who play man-to-man will be waiting for them. Although the article does point out that some GMs believe it's very difficult to win a cup with a man-to-man defensive system as it requires a lot of energy and less positioning. Meanwhile, a well-executed zone is considered the hardest to beat.

I always hated "pure" man on man in your D zone simply because you need to trust each man to cover their guy. If the other team is quicker or just one player is better (McDavid) then it's hard to make it work since you're always scrambling to recover after one guy gets beat.

I also don't like D chasing "their guy" out to the blue line and having wings chase their guy behind the net so everyone is in unfamiliar places for a breakout if you do get the puck.

Funny but true story D1 University years ago the best defenseman on his team was playing man on man coverage. The other coach, being smart, told his forward to skate in the neutral zone when the D locked on to him. So there was this skilled D chasing his guy around the neutral zone and the coach essentially took the best player on the ice out of his defensive zone while they were attacking. It was comical. Zones and hybrids like Boston plays avoid that.

 

[BruinDust]

it's funny because I initially felt that way about the leaf's series/didnt feel any intense animosity towards florida or a need to win, but after the Panther's started their greasy bullshit and the refs gave them favorable calls, pasta got sucker punched with his head on the ice, and Marchand was concussed, I feel nothing but a boiling rage for south florida

When I see the Panthers now, I just see Bleu, blanc, et rouge. That's how I feel about them right now. Dirt-bags and still getting favorable calls from the refs.

You knew the fix was in early in Game 2 when Tkachuk took an intentional whack at Swayman, Brazeau wraps his arms around Tkachuk and Brazeau gets called for a penalty.

 

[BruinDust]

I always hated "pure" man on man in your D zone simply because you need to trust each man to cover their guy. If the other team is quicker or just one player is better (McDavid) then it's hard to make it work since you're always scrambling to recover after one guy gets beat.

I also don't like D chasing "their guy" out to the blue line and having wings chase their guy behind the net so everyone is in unfamiliar places for a breakout if you do get the puck.

Funny but true story D1 University years ago the best defenseman on his team was playing man on man coverage. The other coach, being smart, told his forward to skate in the neutral zone when the D locked on to him. So there was this skilled D chasing his guy around the neutral zone and the coach essentially took the best player on the ice out of his defensive zone while they were attacking. It was comical. Zones and hybrids like the Boston plays avoid that.

Great story. pretty smart of the coach to pick up on that and find a way to exploit it.

Zone keeps the defending team in the right positions majority of the time. You look at a guy like Peeke, he'll excel in zone because of the simplicity and repeatability of it. Bigger guy now he doesn't need to run around and shift off other Bruin defenders. Just control your part of the ice. Don't overcommit.

The key to zone for me is the centers. Your centers have to be capable, more than capable, without the puck in their own zone. Just looking at that chart in the article, the Bruins are near the bottom. The biggest difference to me between this year's team and last year's team is their capability down the middle defensively. No 37 or 46. No reliable 4th line C. In zone schemes, the centers stir the drink in the defensive zone and can make a good zone scheme into a great one. In the offensive zone its really F1/F2/F3 now. After the offensive zone face-off it really doesn't matter. But from your own blue-line back, it absolutely does matter.

 

[Hookslide]

We are sometimes guilty of embellishing this. But it seems to be Florida's MO to do it every chance possible.

Shame on the refs for rewarding this behavior.

There was a similar play early in the first period when a Bruin was interfered and no call was made, refs are creating problems with their inconsistent calls. Monty should be complaining about embellishment calls not being called against Florida, at least give them something to think about.

 

[Yeti34]

I just don’t get the defensive system. It seems unorganized to me. I’m puzzled as to why they are so out of position all the time. Is it a zone, man or combo. Hybrid?

Bruins play zone. Most teams play zone.

Carolina plays man.

 

[Yeti34]

one of Monty’s biggest faults is the constant line juggeling. If you look at the other teams current playing they were playing together almost all season.

Boston has 1 line with over 200 mins played together. Your not going to develop any chemistry this way.

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[JAD]

one of Monty’s biggest faults is the constant line juggeling. If you look at the other teams current playing they were playing together almost all season.

Boston has 1 line with over 200 mins played together. Your not going to develop any chemistry this way.

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The chemistry is distributed throughout the team you can do that when you have a second line, two third lines, and a fourth. Just look at how well they sustain pressure in the offensive zone. you would think they would only get a shot off on a random break in.

 

[mjhfb]

one of Monty’s biggest faults is the constant line juggeling. If you look at the other teams current playing they were playing together almost all season.

Boston has 1 line with over 200 mins played together. Your not going to develop any chemistry this way.

NHL Lines Advanced Stats

The Best Offensive and Defensive Lines in the NHL

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Scrolling down to 104th to see Zacha and Pasta is sad.

 

[GordonHowe]

I have to give him credit for the theatrics. Finally, a pulse.

If you can't beat 'em, mock 'em,

Jim Montgomery explained his viral reactions behind Bruins’ bench in Game 5

Bruins head coach Jim Montgomery pulled out all the stops to call out the Panthers and their knack for selling calls in Game 5 on Tuesday.

www.boston.com

 

[Dreghorn2]

The Bruins system of offense is freeing guys up for multiple grade A scoring chances and odd man rushes, at least last night, i'll assume that's Monty involvement.

Bruins just lack the scorers, the guys their freeing up just aren't skilled enough to take advantage.

 

[RustyBruins72]

Jmo is getting the most of his team for this series,

Florida is the better team on paper and getting most of the breaks and officiating.

The bruins are playing their guts out without the captain. I am still hoping for the upset, but I am happy with the direction of the club for next year.

 

[Dreghorn2]

What's the penalty count up to now 26 to 13? Something like that.

Can you imagine if New York or Toronto had that discrepancy after 5 game, there would be lawsuits and criminal investigations.

 

[Beesfan]

Jmo is getting the most of his team for this series,

Florida is the better team on paper and getting most of the breaks and officiating.

The bruins are playing their guts out without the captain. I am still hoping for the upset, but I am happy with the direction of the club for next year.

This. Florida is just flat out the better team. That was true even with Marchand in the lineup. On balance, Florida controls the play and creates more dangerous chances. Boston can win this series, but the recipe has to be discipline (e.g. no more unnecessary penalties), team defense and, most of all, better goaltending.

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

What's the penalty count up to now 26 to 13? Something like that.

Can you imagine if New York or Toronto had that discrepancy after 5 game, there would be lawsuits and criminal investigations.

IDK but the too many men on the ice penalties are quite annoying.

 

[Dreghorn2]

IDK but the too many men on the ice penalties are quite annoying.

No argument there.

 

[JAD]

IDK but the too many men on the ice penalties are quite annoying.

All I could think about when Lindholm jumped on the ice last game was Don Cherry getting fired. Thank God they did not score.

Players over zealous or lack of communication and discipline?

 

[dangermike]

to this point my biggest knock on montgomery is the use of forbort this series.

unless wotherspoon really needed a breather I DONT GET IT

this might sound like an overreaction but that's his first official strike in my book - forbort doesnt pass the eye test or analytic test, has been fairly slow, not effective at moving the puck at all, and hadnt played against nhl competition is over a month. inexcusable decision.

 

[GordonHowe]

IDK but the too many men on the ice penalties are quite annoying.

They're more than annoying; they're telling.

They tell me the players are perhaps distracted and not communicating effectively when making changes, but they also point to the lack of line stability under Montgomery. How can line changes be smoothly executed when all of the juggling leads to unfamiliarity among lines that may well change the next game -- or the next shift?

 

[UncleRico]

What's the penalty count up to now 26 to 13? Something like that.

Can you imagine if New York or Toronto had that discrepancy after 5 game, there would be lawsuits and criminal investigations.

The games where offensive zone possession have been extremely close the penalties have been even(if you remove the two bruins penalties for too many men on the ice).

The games where Florida has had larger penalty discrepancies is games the panthers dominated puck possession roughly 2:1.

Put more pressure on teams offensively and those teams commit more penalties as it’s rare for any team to get offensive zone penalties.

 

[PB37]

The games where offensive zone possession have been extremely close the penalties have been even(if you remove the two bruins penalties for too many men on the ice).

The games where Florida has had larger penalty discrepancies is games the panthers dominated puck possession roughly 2:1.

Put more pressure on teams offensively and those teams commit more penalties as it’s rare for any team to get offensive zone penalties.

Are these numbers filtered for 5v5 or for total? Because if one team has more power plays than the other, they're going to have more puck possession and zone time numbers as a result of being in the offensive zone.

 

[BMC]

They're more than annoying; they're telling.

They tell me the players are perhaps distracted and not communicating effectively when making changes, but they also point to the lack of line stability under Montgomery. How can line changes be smoothly executed when all of the juggling leads to unfamiliarity among lines that may well change the next game -- or the next shift?

Just as Cassidy was way too slow to juggle his lines Monty is way too quick to juggle his.

I think that is definitely part of the reason for too many TMMOI penalties.

 

[bob77]

to this point my biggest knock on montgomery is the use of forbort this series.

unless wotherspoon really needed a breather I DONT GET IT

this might sound like an overreaction but that's his first official strike in my book - forbort doesnt pass the eye test or analytic test, has been fairly slow, not effective at moving the puck at all, and hadnt played against nhl competition is over a month. inexcusable decision.

The whole team hasn’t passed any of these tests. We are just hanging on

 

[BMC]

I'm with @dangermike about Forbort. Wotherspoon has done his job very well every game. Unless he's hurt Monty needs to keep him in the lineup.