GDT: Jets fly into Montreal where it's Priceless (Habs vs Jets tonight)

[schwang26]

Jets allow as much 5/5 goals as they score and they don't have captain high on drugs for the Jets tonight.

Habs have Monty in net I'm assuming so I expect this one to have more than 6 goals. Anybody's guess on who scores more in this one

Hellebuyck played yesterday so we get their back-up.

I can't believe the way people rip on Monty. The guy is a good goaltender.

 

[Rockomax]

I can't believe the way people rip on Monty. The guy is a good goaltender.

Is he though? I mean, sure, he's been playing for a bottom dwelling team, but GAA of 3.61 and save percentage of 0.896 suggest otherwise. Heck, since turning pro he's had a save percentage over 0.900 1 time and under 3.00 GAA once as well; both in the AHL. 7 wins in 33 NHL starts. Not any better in the AHL either.

Sure, he looks like a fine guy. But a good goaltender is not something that he has proven to be thus far at the pro level.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Don't know about this one. Jets played last night and no Flanders. He's injured.

We'll probably win it in 3rd period when Jets legs go.

We'll see.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I can't believe the way people rip on Monty. The guy is a good goaltender.

He's good at times and I like him. I just don't think he is consistent enough yet. He's earned my respect the way he battled through the season but the way the Habs play where we let the players be creative offensively, it just exposes the goalies

 

[schwang26]

Is he though? I mean, sure, he's been playing for a bottom dwelling team, but GAA of 3.61 and save percentage of 0.896 suggest otherwise. Heck, since turning pro he's had a save percentage over 0.900 1 time and under 3.00 GAA once as well; both in the AHL. 7 wins in 33 NHL starts. Not any better in the AHL either.

Sure, he looks like a fine guy. But a good goaltender is not something that he has proven to be thus far at the pro level.

The habs have given up the 3rd most shots per games played. God only knows how many quality chances. Even Allen's numbers aren't much better. I think most people agree with me.

 

[Rockomax]

The habs have given up the 3rd most shots per games played. God only knows how many quality chances. Even Allen's numbers aren't much better. I think most people agree with me.

I strongly doubt mostr people agree with you, but who knows?

And you'd have a point if his abysmal stats were exclusive to his time here. He's had 16 wins in 58 career games with almost equally terrible GAA and save percentage.

I'm not saying that he's had it easy here either, because he hasn't and was put in a tough season to begin with. But I don't know by what parameters you can conclude that he's a good goalie. Otherwise, how many good goalies are there in the NHL? 80?

 

[schwang26]

He's good at times and I like him. I just don't think he is consistent enough yet. He's earned my respect the way he battled through the season but the way the Habs play where we let the players be creative offensively, it just exposes the goalies

It's not even that. They allow them to play that way because there's no other choice. They either play total defence and lose 3-1, or they go all out and lose 6-5. Maybe I'm not wording this correctly, but they truly haven't had a solid lineup and still have so many holes that you might as well let them play loosey goosey hockey. At least it's entertaining. I mean, seriously, they lack a 1 and arguably 2 defenceman, a number 2 centre, and play 4 or 5 rookies on any given night. Sure, Monty might let in a bad one here or there, but he's still inexperienced. If he was still with Florida, I'd bet his numbers would look great.

 

[CHfan1]

If the Habs were to lose tonight it’ll ensure they have their worst regular season record in more than 70 years. It’s even worse when one factors in there never use to be loser points or shootouts.

 

[Habs Halifax]

It's not even that. They allow them to play that way because there's no other choice. They either play total defence and lose 3-1, or they go all out and lose 6-5. Maybe I'm not wording this correctly, but they truly haven't had a solid lineup and still have so many holes that you might as well let them play loosey goosey hockey. At least it's entertaining. I mean, seriously, they lack a 1 and arguably 2 defenceman, a number 2 centre, and play 4 or 5 rookies on any given night. Sure, Monty might let in a bad one here or there, but he's still inexperienced. If he was still with Florida, I'd bet his numbers would look great.

I agree that he is good and still improving but the facts are the Habs will expose him so this game will be high scoring with both back-ups. Like or hate Monty, he has a big challenge to keep it to 2 goals or less the way the Habs play with MSL.

 

[schwang26]

I strongly doubt mostr people agree with you, but who knows?

And you'd have a point if his abysmal stats were exclusive to his time here. He's had 16 wins in 58 career games with almost equally terrible GAA and save percentage.

I'm not saying that he's had it easy here either, because he hasn't and was put in a tough season to begin with. But I don't know by what parameters you can conclude that he's a good goalie. Otherwise, how many good goalies are there in the NHL? 80?

Yes, those numbers were from before,, but he's gained experience. You mean to tell me you haven't noticed a marked difference in his play from the beginning of the season until now? I certainly have.

 

[schwang26]

I agree that he is good and still improving but the facts are the Habs will expose him so this game will be high scoring with both back-ups. Like or hate Monty, he has a big challenge to keep it to 2 goals or less the way the Habs play with MSL.

I'd say I agree with you for "this year". Logically, they're going to improve their defence and probably won't have 3 rookies back there. You add in a true number 1 and maybe a more defensive defenceman, a better number 2 centre, you're going to cut down on chances whether MSL wants them to play pond hockey or not.

 

[peate]

Monty was a victim of the "Ducharme"" method, just like the rest of the team. I'd give him a bit more time to right himself. But he's gonna have to be damn good, cause he's had some bad games. I'm getting anxious for some playoff hockey though; these irrelevant games are starting to pile up. Habs win in OT, 5-4.

GOGO​

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

If the Habs were to lose tonight it’ll ensure they have their worst regular season record in more than 70 years. It’s even worse when one factors in there never use to be loser points or shootouts.

and yet we are not even sure to be 1 of the bottom 3 worse team on the league.

 

[schwang26]

Monty was a victim of the "Ducharme"" method, just like the rest of the team. I'd give him a bit more time to right himself. But he's gonna have to be damn good, cause he's had some bad games. I'm getting anxious for some playoff hockey though; these irrelevant games are starting to pile up. Habs win in OT, 5-4.

GOGO​

We also don't know how his wrist or hand injury affects his play either. It could certainly mess him up occasionally.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Monty was a victim of the "Ducharme"" method, just like the rest of the team. I'd give him a bit more time to right himself. But he's gonna have to be damn good, cause he's had some bad games. I'm getting anxious for some playoff hockey though; these irrelevant games are starting to pile up. Habs win in OT, 5-4.

GOGO​

How does a goalie is victim of a coach?
Did Ducharme had a red laser that kid uses and aim at Montombeau eyes during the game?

In what case that Ducharme was the reason that Montombeau couldn't save a puck? Because the defensive squad was not helping him? Because nothing changed in that case.

I get it Ducharme was bad , but blaming absolutely everything into him is just complete non-sense.
There is a reason why Montombeau always struggled to be a backup in the NHL. Ducharme is not the reason why.

 

[Hab Bateman]

Odds Rogers Hometown Hockey spends half the pregame show talking about the Leafs and 10 minutes on Matthews?

Those odds are shorter than young Cole.

 

[CHfan1]

and yet we are not even sure to be 1 of the bottom 3 worse team on the league.

Which is crazy. Arizona, the Habs, and Seattle are all in the top 12, currently, for worst records (points %) in the salary cap era. NJ (20th worst in that timeframe), Philly (22nd), and Ottawa (28th) have all been just as bad.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Which is crazy. Arizona, the Habs, and Seattle are all in the top 12, currently, for worst records (points %) in the salary cap era. NJ (20th worst in that timeframe), Philly (22nd), and Ottawa (28th) have all been just as bad.

This is crazy , it's also works on both ways the top teams will have end up with 105+ points.

 

[BJCOLLINS]

Just lose Baby

 

[peate]

How does a goalie is victim of a coach?
Did Ducharme had a red laser that kid uses and aim at Montombeau eyes during the game?

In what case that Ducharme was the reason that Montombeau couldn't save a puck? Because the defensive squad was not helping him? Because nothing changed in that case.

I get it Ducharme was bad , but blaming absolutely everything into him is just complete non-sense.
There is a reason why Montombeau always struggled to be a backup in the NHL. Ducharme is not the reason why.

Getting outshot by a margin of 3 to 1 on a regular basis and seeing a team in front of you that doesn't give a shit. That'll make a goalie perform with confidence, doncha think?

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Getting outshot by a margin of 3 to 1 on a regular basis and seeing a team in front of you that doesn't give a shit. That'll make a goalie perform with confidence, doncha think?

Habs are still getting heavily outshotted with MSL.... Point being?

 

[Nicko999]

Which is crazy. Arizona, the Habs, and Seattle are all in the top 12, currently, for worst records (points %) in the salary cap era. NJ (20th worst in that timeframe), Philly (22nd), and Ottawa (28th) have all been just as bad.

It's even more hilarious when you consider there isn't a generational talent in the draft.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

It's even more hilarious when you consider there isn't a generational talent in the draft.

This we will never know until they are in the nhl , pretty sure Makar wasnt considered one at the time

 

[Runner77]

It's even more hilarious when you consider there isn't a generational talent in the draft.

They don't need to be generational to fill glaring needs. Draft is always a crapshoot that way.

If the Habs can get a top 6 player, it's all good. They have a lot of deadwood to ditch so it'll be better than what they have.

 

[Habs]

if the jets lose to the Montreal lineup, they should fold that franchise up