Hockeyisl1fe
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Yeah + the coach's awful overanalysing system... I don't have too much hope for Finland this tournament, but hopefully our young stars find their groove at some point.
Player Discussion Jesse Puljujärvi 4th Overall 2016 Draft. Part III On Loan To Finnish WHC Team
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WigWam
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What´s wrong with Pool-Party, he looks scary on the ice. This year hasn´t done him any good, quite opposite i would say. He´s not going to take his place on finlands`s WHC team if he plays this way, i´d even say Markus Hännikäinen is closer to get his roster spot right now....
That's unfortunate to hear. Still hoping he can have a big year next year but he sure has been a disappoint thus far. Glad I was never super high on him as it was.
Before anyone gives up on him, i hope they remember how drai first looked. He'll get there
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Don't panic.
These EHT games are only practice matches to upcoming IIHF men's world.
Personally i don't give nothing value of these hobby games.
Puljujärvi has played often with Aho but he isn't never played with Filppula and before Jesse will knows his linemates better it'll take time few games.
Also Puljujärvi has played all season in North American ice surfce so also adjusting to European ice surface takes time.
Be patient and don't freak out immediately if Puljujärvi can't play so well as you expect.
ChicagoBullsFan
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Do you know what these EHT games really are?.
They are hobby games which have no sporting or athletic value.
It will take time few games berofe Puljujärvi knows his linemates better.
Keep in mind that fact Puljujärvi hasn't never before played with Filppula.
Be patient and don't freak out immediately if Puljujärvi won't play so well as you expect.
bobbythebrain
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The Draisaitl comparisons really need to stop. Drai had an issue with skating...that's it.
Poolparty is having an issue with how to play the game.
Massive difference
I don't see why everyone is using Draisaitl as a comparison. I have zero hope JP will be better. Lacks elite hockey sense. Leon oozed that in junior. JP needs to be more bull in a China shop Taylor Hall - tell him to shoot and teach him to protect the puck. If he does, he'll replace Eberle easily.
JP could easily be another Benoit Pouliot though.
The guy is still 18, has been playing in a small rink all season and just played his 2nd game in the national team. He hasn't been bad, but has been pretty invisible as have many other Finnish players. It's also good to remember he is playing against very good teams now, as Russia is full of great players with lots of experience. Last year Laine was having a tough time against the better teams, but of course Pulju is a year older than that now so more could be expected. We'll see, tomorrow is another chance.
booyakasha
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More to it than just skating with Drai his first year.
He also had an issue with how to play the game at the NHL level.
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Draisaitl never had skating issues. That's just a narrative Flames fans used to claim Bennett was better than Leon.
Leons stride, size, first step a tiny bit, but mostly his style to slow things down made him look slow.
JP may take awhile but I wouldbe shocked of he doesn't develope into a solid top 6 wingers.
Leons stride, size, first step a tiny bit, but mostly his style to slow things down made him look slow.
JP may take awhile but I wouldbe shocked of he doesn't develope into a solid top 6 wingers.
WigWam
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Right now problem seems to be that he´s too arfraid to do any of those things or to battle with opponent players. self confidence Zero. He need´s a shrink after one year in NA. Way he´s been treated this season is totally wrong for a natures child like him. He still has a chance to be a huge player, but now it´s up to him, to pull it through. He either does it or he doesnt..... the guy doesn´t believe in his self right now.
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I've only seen four periods of the six he's had in the national team. In those I didn't quite see what you did. I saw an energetic player who filled his role, but didn't meet big offensive expectations some people had. But not many other Finns did either.
To me it's not such a bad sign if an 18-year-old player plays solid, though not shining offensively, games against the Czech Republic and Russia in his first national games. Playing in the 1st line also meant he often played against the best players of those teams. But I do understand if some other people expect more and actually so do I, but not during the first few games.
I'm not trying to say what Pulju will or won't become at the NHL level, but surprisingly often people forget that the best level he had at Oilers was already pretty good, also statistically. It's not just my opinion, as almost everyone here seemed to think so too. Already based on that I would be disappointed if he won't turn into a top three player. If he won't be shining by the end of the next year I may start to lower my expectations, but at the moment I see no reason to do so.
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The good thing is that we can still send him to the AHL again next season but I think that once he plays his next NHL game he will never play an AHL game again.
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It's funny how the expectations from an 18-year old have changed since the arrival of McDavid, Laine and Matthews
point I'm making is not to call a guy a bust as some of you seem to be doing. or panicking that's he's not going to be any good.
there is a reason he was considered a top 3 pick by everyone.
in his first year people were commenting drai sucked, and look how he turned out.
just want people to remember that the first season isn't the sum of what a player is going to become.
you or anyone else calls Pulju a bust, or say he can't think the game/isn't good enough for the NHL, is likely to be eating a lot of crow in 2 years.
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What's this talk i'm hearing that the top guys in Oilers didn't much like Pool being on the lineup, is it just me or has anyone else heard such things?
Source: http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/h...id-jesse-puljujarvi-a-favor-long-before-today
"Lack of love" mentioned somewhere in the comments section mainly caught my eye. Feel bad for the kid if that's the case.
Source: http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/h...id-jesse-puljujarvi-a-favor-long-before-today
"Lack of love" mentioned somewhere in the comments section mainly caught my eye. Feel bad for the kid if that's the case.
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I haven't heard that, but I wouldn't be too surprised if that was true to some extent. After all Pulju was a young-looking and maybe young-acting guy who couldn't speak barely any English. He must have been quite different from everyone else. I also didn't want to write this as I thought it's probably not true, but maybe (just Maybe, not that I believe so) even players such as McDavid felt somehow strange when it seemed there was suddenly another teen star coming to the team. Please don't attack me too hard for this
Puljujarvi played so well in the 1st line that it didn't make sense to drop him out of the lineup the way they did, so it did feel a bit strange. So maybe it's got something to do with what you wrote, maybe not. Even if that was the case I'm sure things would be different now that Pulju has learned some English and got more accustomed to the NA culture.
Lol the way people are talking you'd think the kid was 24 and never played half a season yet. Like what in the actual ****. He's still 18. 18. Stop and think about that for a second. How many players are gamebreakers at 18 in pro hockey? I'm gonna say not very many. He still scored .72 ppg in the AHL this year on a team that missed the playoffs. Now saying things like he isn't liked in the dressing room? Yeah I don't think McDavid feels threatened in any way by JP, that's ridiculous. This is crazy.
I knew that'd be coming. But I didn't quite say threatened. I said that maybe, just maybe, the more experienced players felt somehow strange that there was another teenage star gaining attention (as Jesse did in the few games he played in the 1st line), especially if they felt it started to happen too fast to a guy they didn't really connect to (due to different language etc.). But as I said I don't think that's likely, just a thought. I guess I shouldn't have mentioned McDavid's name there as I didn't find too good words to express how I meant it.
He'll be fine. He'll get to play with McDavid next year, put up some points and his confidence with go from there.
His AHL numbers for an 18 year old were quite good.
His AHL numbers for an 18 year old were quite good.
bobbythebrain
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He honestly looked not that bad with McDavid this past year. Connor scored his only hat trick in one of the games playing with Jesse on his wing.
He's the only quality winger we have that can actually keep up with McDavid speed-wise (sorry Eberle).
Why shouldn't he get a look there, even Pitlick got some time with McDavid this year. We didn't draft him no.4 overall to play in the bottom six.
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