No, it's the "Virtues of Development vs Winning in the AHL" overflow thread. So much angst cannot be contained to just one thread!
Jake Virtanen - Part VI
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No, it's the "Virtues of Development vs Winning in the AHL" overflow thread. So much angst cannot be contained to just one thread!
Mudshark50
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Maybe Travis Green knows what he is doing and we overrate our prospects? Take a prospect like Dane Fox. At this time last year, did anyone think that Fox would spend an entire season in the ECHL? Maybe McCann and Hutton isn't as far as long as we thought, while Virtanen is closer to the NHL than those two?
Virtanen is such a cool guy.
Most nhl'ers seem like straight edge. No fun. Bed by 10. Dont joke about me. Maybe a lot of european players give me this vibe. Like the sedins being robots kinda.
I rember part of our lockerroom divide was the sedins being quiet and weird and lu bieksa and kesler being fun normal guys
Prob a cultural thing i just think virtanen is the kind of team mate u want on and off the ice. Hed have a bottle broken over a team mate being bumped into in seconds
And the greatest players are able to loosen up and be normal people. Jake seems to me like hes never out of touch with the common person, and is ready to crack a joke about himself any second.
He has extrodinary beaking so its no suprise, funny when ppl on hear said his speach seems like he's stupid.
I rather a team full of guys that know poliics are corrupt and oil is running out than a team of Dare spokesmen
Most nhl'ers seem like straight edge. No fun. Bed by 10. Dont joke about me. Maybe a lot of european players give me this vibe. Like the sedins being robots kinda.
I rember part of our lockerroom divide was the sedins being quiet and weird and lu bieksa and kesler being fun normal guys
Prob a cultural thing i just think virtanen is the kind of team mate u want on and off the ice. Hed have a bottle broken over a team mate being bumped into in seconds
And the greatest players are able to loosen up and be normal people. Jake seems to me like hes never out of touch with the common person, and is ready to crack a joke about himself any second.
He has extrodinary beaking so its no suprise, funny when ppl on hear said his speach seems like he's stupid.
I rather a team full of guys that know poliics are corrupt and oil is running out than a team of Dare spokesmen
y2kcanucks
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In my experience it takes a variety of different personalities to make up a strong locker room. You can't have too many guys talking at once... but somebody has to say something. I thinking calling the twins "robots" is disrespectful. By every account they are great people. That should be celebrated. I do think Virtanen has the kind of personality the team has been missing at times. I'm fond of players that stick their nose in there.
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D0ctorCool
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If you wanna be Yzerman you better back it up with gutsy performances, Robot isn't so much accurate as quiet, don't like quiet leaders
As for Jake not even a guy who talks a lot, just even rmeber in the WJC in warm up he was jousting aruond with everyone, getting them into the attitude, total Perry.
(He cares about his teammates, and wants them to do well)
Really makes me wonder what people are thinking, you have Virtanen who fits Benning physical check list, and his emotional checklist(Proably 100/100), and you want the 168lb dane who couldn't lead a group of ants into battle
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King Canute was even lighter than Ehlers and he led a group of Vikings to basically conquer England
BenningHurtsMySoul
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So Jake's AHL experience likely ends with a paultry 1 assist in 10 games. Definitely not a great sign, he doesn't look ready for the AHL let alone the NHL. I wish he could play a full season there next season. Can't see him making any sort of offensive impact next season, all he can really bring is physicality but we don't want to limit his potential and turn him into a grinder going forward.
Just so frustrating looking at how even prospects drafted in the teens and late first round that were able to outproduce him. It's been long enough since his surgery. At this point in a redraft he might not even be taken before McCann.
Just so frustrating looking at how even prospects drafted in the teens and late first round that were able to outproduce him. It's been long enough since his surgery. At this point in a redraft he might not even be taken before McCann.
Hopefully next season he gets better. Kind of worrisome that he isn't scoring as much.
VanillaCoke
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Doesn't seem like a great pick at #6 , hopefully he turns it around. We're never going to win anything if we blow picks in the top 10
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Didn't look ready for the AHL? Did you watch any games or just look at the score sheet? Oh no, he didn't light it up in 10 games again 2 of the best AHL teams!! Guess he's a career 3rd liner at 18 years old.
What a joke these boards have become...
pahlsson
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i think he would definitely be ready for a 3rd/4th line role in the AHL next year if he was eligible, which is too bad as he would've been able to learn what it takes to be a future bottom 6er in a great pro environment instead of aimlessly playing in juniors again
topched88
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Calm down, he didnt exactly light the world on fire. I would expect more than .10 ppg in the AHL out of a 6th overall pick regardless of the situation (see dylan larkin WHC and AHL stats). Doesn't mean he wont be a great player, but at years end im fine with saying Virtanen didnt have a great draft +1 season. Satisfactory is more like it.
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I noticed a progression from his first to tenth AHL game. He already has the physical ability to steamroll people at the AHL (probably NHL) level. Jake will need to start incorporating more pro aspects to his game and the numbers will come eventually. An argument can be made that he'll never incorporate those necessary skills, but I wouldn't go that far yet.
I think he sticks with the team as a 4th liner next season, but with some big time growing pains along with it.
Way too early to write him off as a 3rd liner.
I think he sticks with the team as a 4th liner next season, but with some big time growing pains along with it.
Way too early to write him off as a 3rd liner.
polarbearcub
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I remember when many people on these boards were so disappointed that horvat had no points in 5 ahl games and didn't stand out....
Step back from the ledge people.
Step back from the ledge people.
No one is saying he set the world on fire and if he did score like Larkin/Kempe we'd likely be writing him in as a future 1st liner. Both scenarios are premature and he isn't a star or a bust based on 10 AHL games 3 months before his 19th birthday. It was a step in a journey for Jake to the NHL and by all accounts it was a mixed bag. Certainly showed an ability to get/create chances with his strength and speed, which bodes well for his NHL prospects. Also showed an inaccurate shot and a lack of finish, which plays heavily into the 1 in 10 statline. Things to work on for sure and as you say, his foray into the AHL game can be described as "satisfactory", which is a far cry from some of the posts around here.
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