Jake next alternate?

[Rebels57]

I actually came into this thread to make a joke about PEB possibly getting it only to be one upped by reality.

Hakstols Flyers in a nut-shell

 

[boxcar65]

Should have been Gudas or Manning

 

[Ghosts Beer]

This just adds to my frustration with yesterday's Bellemare signing. Are there any more accolades this team can give to Bellemare to show how important and valued he is? Maybe give him a different-coloured helmet like in some Euro leagues?

Pierre-Edouard has highlighted his low-ceiling skill set this season, and is a marginal NHLer contributing significantly to the mediocrity of the Flyers. His inexplicable and statistically-obtuse overuse by Hakstol has been reinvigorated by the shiny new contract and now his visible status as a member of the player leadership.

Ron Hextall, you are slowly removing the bread from this poop sandwich of a season.

This is pretty much in line with my frustrations.

Hextall is proving himself to vastly overvalue aging "character" veterans.

The team is going nowhere with its veteran core. If they are going to contend, it's going to be in a few years on the backs of younger players & prospects.

But Hextall can't seem to shake his love of mediocre to poor experienced vets who are good off the ice, but blow on the ice.

I couldn't care less if Bellemare wears an A -- frankly, he better based on that contract. But how much does his character really help this non-contending team?

 

[Cody Webster]

I played sports through college... And Jake Voracek is not listening to a 31 yr old guy who has 2+ NHL experience. Just like would not listen to a freshman when I was a senior. Please stop arguing... I am done with this thread. You guys are always right.

Lol, thanks for loving you know absolutely nothing with this post.

 

[Cody Webster]

Should have been Gudas or Manning

Gudas, yes

Manning.....rofl

But honestly, surprised it wasn't a defenseman

 

[antman12]

I was hoping it would have been Provorov. It's inevitable that he'll wear at least an A, might as well given him the experience over the last 20 games.

 

[Chicken Chaser]

It's obviously Couturier because he's been the Flyers 2nd best and most important player the past few seasons running #wtf.

 

[tymed]

I don't think they wanted to give any unneeded responsibility to any of the young guys. There's plenty of time for the ones who'll earn it.

To answer the question of the thread though, no, I wouldn't come close to giving it to Jake. Nothing against him, there's just better leaders out there in the lineup.

 

[backburner]

lol peb actually got it? that's awesome

 

[Curufinwe]

Florida lost tonight because their captain is a 4th liner.

That's how important these letters are.

 

[Sawdalite]

I don't think anyone is questioning Bellemare's quality as a person. He's just a terrible hockey player. He's twice the player VandeVelde is though.

I didn't mean to suggest that anyone was saying or thinking that... I was merely commenting on what Hextall and Hakstol... and probably his Teammates thought of him... and with that, maybe one reason he was considered. I believe being a quality person is one criteria of Leadership on Sports Teams.

With that said, he is not a terrible hockey Player... it is just your opinion that he is... and you are allowed to have a different opinion from all those hockey professionals in the Organization and the Hockey Pundits. He does his job... he may not be an $8M Player, but he does what's asked of him... and now he is an Official Leader of the Team.

 

[Sawdalite]

Florida lost tonight because their captain is a 4th liner.

That's how important these letters are.

Oh... is that why they lost?... And here I thought it was because Mason stoned their ***** and the Flyers worked theirs off to get a ShootOut Win... Well, that's how much I know.

 

[Rebels57]

I didn't mean to suggest that anyone was saying or thinking that... I was merely commenting on what Hextall and Hakstol... and probably his Teammates thought of him... and with that, maybe one reason he was considered. I believe being a quality person is one criteria of Leadership on Sports Teams.

With that said, he is not a terrible hockey Player... it is just your opinion that he is... and you are allowed to have a different opinion from all those hockey professionals in the Organization and the Hockey Pundits. He does his job... he may not be an $8M Player, but he does what's asked of him... and now he is an Official Leader of the Team.

Statistically he is actually the worst forward in the NHL over the past 2 seasons.

 

[Sawdalite]

Statistically he is actually the worst forward in the NHL over the past 2 seasons.

Ahhh the numbers game, huh?... Those statistics are based on fourth line forwards and Pkers I suppose.

... Well, Hextall just re-signed the worse statistical Goalie -- based on minimum 25 GP -- so why not have a set pair?

 

[Rebels57]

Ahhh the numbers game, huh?... Those statistics are based on fourth line forwards and Pkers I suppose.

... Well, Hextall just re-signed the worse statistical Goalie -- based on minimum 25 GP -- so why not have a set pair?

Nope he is worst among ALL forwards lol. I think VdV does drag him down though. He is basically playing every shift on 5v4 since VdV is utterly useless.

 

[TCTC]

I think Bellemare was really good during that 10 game winning streak when he was on a line with Read and Lyubimov I believe.

 

[Sawdalite]

Nope he is worst among ALL forwards lol. I think VdV does drag him down though. He is basically playing every shift on 5v4 since VdV is utterly useless.

What I was sarcastically alluding to is that such Stats cannot definitely rate the play of Role Players who are selected by the Coach for a specific purpose... Hak sends out Belly to accomplish what he determines is required... and Belly apparently meets the task... statistics be damned.

The numbers game is used for whatever people want tit to be used... but in the end it is the users choice to interpret them as needed and discard them where not.

Exactly what Statistics can be used to determine if Belly is doing his Role efficiently? While I appreciate the use of Statistics, I do not consider them the be all end all when it comes to Sports Playing. JMO

 

[kudymen]

Should have been Gudas or Manning

Why would you put Manning in second place, not first?

 

[StoneHands]

What I was sarcastically alluding to is that such Stats cannot definitely rate the play of Role Players who are selected by the Coach for a specific purpose... Hak sends out Belly to accomplish what he determines is required... and Belly apparently meets the task... statistics be damned.

The numbers game is used for whatever people want tit to be used... but in the end it is the users choice to interpret them as needed and discard them where not.

Exactly what Statistics can be used to determine if Belly is doing his Role efficiently? While I appreciate the use of Statistics, I do not consider them the be all end all when it comes to Sports Playing. JMO

Impressive Freudian nip slip.

 

[Sawdalite]

Impressive Freudian nip slip.

... Are you suggesting that that is not correct as Posted?

 

[BernieParent]

Why would you put Manning in second place, not first?

I'm surprised he wasn't advocating getting the 'C'.

 

[BernieParent]

... Are you suggesting that that is not correct as Posted?

Brandon Mammaring?

 

[Sawdalite]

Brandon Mammaring?

As Bob Hope used to say, 'Thanks for the mammaries'.