Thanks for doing this, I enjoy having more detail-focused discussion like this every once in a while. Here are my notes of period 1:
Bean – 12 shifts: 1 good play, 1 ok play, 6 bad plays
1:16 – 1:50: shift #1 (timestamps on the video)
1:32 – Shot from the point gets blocked even though there’s a lot of room to make another type of play – bad play
5:55 – 6:22: shift #2
6:16 – Shot from the point goes wide – bad play
8:46 – 9:45: shift #3
8:51 – good pass to the wing off the faceoff win – good play
9:29 – loses coverage of his guy after a dump-in – bad play
11:03 – 11:34: shift #4
14:10 – 15:45: shift#5
18:15 – 18:50: shift #6
19:55 – 20:16: shift #7
23:10 – 23:40: shift #8
26:15 – 26:50: shift #9
26:45 – receives pass from Gavrikov, could have passed to the middle (Robinson) but takes a shot at the net which is easy for goalie to snatch without giving up a rebound – OK play
28:12 – 29:08: shift #10
28:49 – loses coverage of his guy in the corner (Granlund) and allows Forsberg to have a shot attempt at the net and doesn’t tie up his stick on the rebound – bad play
32:10 – 33:05: shift #11
32:56 – Preds gets a 2vs1 which is partially a result of Bean not properly checking ”his guy” on the play (Ekholm) – bad play
34:50 – 35:55: shift #12
35:47 – loses coverage of his guy (Granlund) and gives too much time for him to make pass – bad play
Gavrikov – 12 shifts: 9 good plays, 7 bad plays
1:16 – 1:55: shift #1
1:43 – solid pinch to keep puck in the zone – good play
1:50 – wins puck race to force icing call – good play
5:18 – 6:22: shift #2
5:22 – breaks up the play in DZ, chips puck to open wing – good play
8:46 – 9:45: shift #3
9:00 – breaks up Preds zone exit attempt – good play
9:06 – loses puck battle on the boards – bad play
9:17 – fails to collect the pass or get out of the way – bad play
9:37 – well-timed stick check breaks up the play – good play
11:03 – 11:34: shift #4
14:10 – 15:45: shift #5
15:32 – bank pass gets intercepted – bad play
17:04 – 17:50: shift #6
17:14 – fails to clear puck out of the zone – bad play
18:50 – 20:16: shift #7
19:10 – loses coverage in DZ – bad play
23:10 – 23:40: shift #8
23:34 – breaks up the play in NZ – good play
26:15 – 26:50: shift #9
26:42 – fake shot and a cross ice pass to create more room – good play
28:12 – 29:08: shift #10
28:14 – stops Preds forward on the defensive blueline and forces turnover – good play
28:40 – gives a difficult pass to the wing, Voracek seems to be sleeping on the play but that can’t be an excuse – bad play
28:42 – makes up for his bad pass by checking Preds forward immediately – good play
32:10 – 33:05: shift #11
34:50 – 37:14: shift #12
35:45 – doesn’t block the passing lane – bad play
So to summarize: if I understood your post correctly, you saw 5-7 bad and 1 or 2 good plays from Gavrikov in period 1 whereas Bean had about 3 good moments and 2 bad ones. I agree that Bean had mostly an uneventful period but some of the plays you seem to define as ”good” plays are just ”ok”, ”bad” or insignificant stuff in my eyes. IMO neither had a good period, but Gavrikov’s good/bad play ratio was clearly better.
I knew the debate would turn to this, but, that’s fine. I have a huge issue with your consistency regarding the criteria for ratings of these plays, in the same way you apparently have a problem with my analysis.
You are the guy that is categorizing “insignificant” stuff as “good” for Gavrikov, while clearly missing things that shouldn’t be missed for Bean. You gave Gavrikov (+)s for some pretty simple pinches and the time he simply retrieved a dumped in puck that he
should have gotten to. There is a Bean defensive play on Duchene behind the net that is just as “good” as multiple plays you give Gavrikov credit for.
The incident/plays that we both noticed at 28:40-28:42-28:48, around 3:20 left, is interesting and I want to focus on them. It’s a perfect example of people watching the same thing and seeing something completely different.
You attempt to pass some blame on Voracek for the “pass”, (which I also noticed) but, both of us can see a hard pass rung around and along the boards like that is on Gavrikov. Even though Gavrikov recovered to knock the puck from the guy in traffic, the play to do that was “routine” AND it was caused by Gavrikov. You consider this an “even” for Gavrikov, +1 and -1. His “good” play should be easily considered an “ok” play as it really was a simple play and NSH never lost possession of the puck and continued attacking for the rest of the shift. Again, all because of HIS turnover.
This is where is gets interesting. 2 blocked shots on the most dangerous guy on the ice, from distances he already scored from….aannndddd nothing. You literally took the 2 plays that I thought were Bean’s BEST of the period, and 2 of the better plays by any of the defensemen, 2 plays that are directly relatable to the comparison between him and Gavrikov/Peeke, or the things people don’t give him any credit for, yet, you apparently missed 1 of the blocks entirely and Bean’s stick go flying, and actually somehow gave him a (-) for the other block.
Anybody else feel free to watch these things play out on the ice and tell me how they should be looked at, around 3:20 left. For clarity’s sake:
—28:40 – gives a difficult pass to the wing, Voracek seems to be sleeping on the play but that can’t be an excuse – bad play
28:42 – makes up for his bad pass by checking Preds forward immediately – good play —
— 28:49 – loses coverage of his guy in the corner (Granlund) and allows Forsberg to have a shot attempt at the net and doesn’t tie up his stick on the rebound – bad play —
#1: Bean absolutely does NOT “lose coverage of his guy”. Granlund makes a drop pass to Forsberg in the corner. Voracek goes to Forsberg and HE loses him after a spin, and Bean goes out (from “covering” Granlund/the net) to make up for Voracek’s laziness/mistake.
#2: This part is “hilarious”. You say Bean “allows” Forsberg to have a “shot attempt”, yet, completely IGNORE the fact or give ANY credit to the fact that Bean
blocked the shot. Not only that, you double down and say that Bean, “doesn’t tie up his stick on the rebound”, even though Bean is STILL engaged with Forsberg, and he is the ONLY guy having any impact on breaking up the pass across the slot to Granlund.
3: What is Gavrikov doing and/or who is he covering at the time of that attempted “rebound” or “pass” over to Granlund after Forsberg’s shot is BLOCKED by Bean?? He is doing NOTHING to stop the puck get across the slot over to Granlund, it’s Bean, yet you somehow hold it against Bean.
4: What about Bean’s
2nd blocked shot on Forsberg, after Bean quickly has to step around another player (“his” player) he is covering by the net?? I don’t understand how this can be missed, stick goes flying, yet, Gavrikov gets
credit for retrieving a dumped in puck??
Voracek showing he’s a defensive liability during the entire sequence (look at his positioning during the 2nd blocked shot) and I’d argue Bean is the only CBJ player to do the correct things and be in the correct position during the entire thing.