Value of: Jacob Trouba

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  1. broc Registered User

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    yes, the Detroit Red Wings- far and away the worst team in hockey this season- are going to trade not only an unprecedented gigantic package of quality draft picks... for players who couldnt help the Rangers be a good team. But they’ll also include their best prospect as well.

    Logic fail here again, bern..
     
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    How do you know it's a bern post? It has 17 different picks (Rangers get the higher ones) and normally the best prospect from the other team while giving 'expendable, but they're totally really good' NYR players.
     
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    I have no interest in that trade as a Wings fan, it flies in the face of everything our management is trying to accomplish right now
     
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    That didn't take long
     
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    Also, are there guys from the NYR who need new contracts/nice raises, and/or players who need protection in the expansion draft (with none of these to go back to NYR in the offers)
    Does it include somewhere a remark about “market price”? If so, we may be on to something...
     
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    Ummm, the OP is Ed Jovanovski, all star NHL defenceman and Olympian. He knows defence.
     
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    called out for BS.
    players of the ilk you describe would be like Brendan Smith.
    Was he in there? No.
    You again ignore, and I will not allow you to get away with, refusing to admit that as noted, value is fair.
    The core has a former 9OA and a guy who upon redraft would go at least 7OA for Seider, a reach at 6OA.
    All the others, we are looking at first or second plus value for 2nds, including some in the future, for guys now, players who are early to mid 20s. In one fell swoop Wings got a complete core to add to what they have on W.

    If your vote is to build via draft, slow and steady and hope to get it all right, fine.
    But don't misrepresent the facts.


    Facetious.
    Guys who are good are dealt b'c replacements emerge happens often.
    Deangelo -- not part of this deal -- will be usurped by Nils L. Who will ultimately be the better player? Remains to be seen. But NY needs to move on ADA so they have $ in 3 yrs when needed. Can move on now or later, but move on they will.

    Again, value legit for all guys tendered in deal.


    Talk about having your cake and eating it too.
    What unmitigated greed.
    DET admits that it needs to add seriously to a threadbare roster.
    This does it, without snookering any 30/ish guys not long term part of a build.

    As explained. When you acquire talent, you have to pay for it, pay to keep it.
    What these guys will earn will be market, adjusted for the fact it is a covid depressing economy driving their numbers down, something of which Wings should take advantage. Also, these are guys still on elc or rfa.

    And you complain about paying their salaries?
    Hypocrisy, man, H.
     
  8. BatVader "nothing is true; everything is permitted"

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    In a world of uncertainty, I take comfort in the certainty that Trouba isn’t coming to Winnipeg!
    You wanted him..... enjoy!
     
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    In the short term he controls, so it will be rangers or maybe he goes to DET for reasons specified earlier above.

    No reunion at the 'peg
     
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    Eight million down and only forty eight to go
     
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    Not even trying to shit on the guy but at his contract he has little to no value in a trade.
     
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    Lol i f***ing knew who the threadstarter was before i saw it. Huge hater of Trouba, to the point it's embarrassing.
     
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    He's always been a bit overrated, but he's still a top pairing D IMHO. Without PP specialist DeAngelo Trouba would've had more points. Trouba's D partner has been trash and he's been getting all the tough minutes.

    Put him with a decent D and he'll be even better.

    Also his physicality is nice.

    He'll be perfect as a partner to Miller when he's ready.
     
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    Easiest d core in the league to play against without him? Hfboards just doesn't grasp that physicality is part of hockey. He isnt going anywhere.
     
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    Just Pionk!:naughty:
     
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    He is 2m over paid and has a full nmc. He isnt going anywhere. Tony D is the off man out. He isnt better then fox. he cant play his off side. He is too expensive for a third pair guy. Sucks. I would prefer tony but Trouba isn't being moved for a few more years if ever.
     
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    Wrong x 2.
    1. overpaid as to value approx 1.5m, not 2, and that is in large part due to covid economy which has negatively impacted worth of most contracts.
    8 per was max of market value at that pre covid time.

    2. He can be dealt w/o waiving, just not immediately. Per CF:
    CLAUSE DETAILS: 2024-25: Player submits a 15 team no trade list; 2025-26: Player submits a 12 team no trade list.

    Not likely he will waive soon, but if it is a place that works for him [DET] he may consider it since once the restriction is partially lifted we can deal him anywhere.
     
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    You think making that post to argue 500k makes you look like anything less then a clown? You f***ing clown. go away. I bet if some goes "yeah it was $3" you chime in like a total clown going "NO IT WAS $2.99"
     
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    He's a second pairing (At best) entitled defenceman making 8 million per season. He's not getting much back in a trade. Unless of course the Rangers want to send Kakko or another valuable asset back with him. I'm not even sure the Rangers are looking to trade him.
     
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    But, every team in the NHL besides NYR needs him. You just don't understand how much better off you will be. Regret is a horrible thing.
     
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    IIRC it was New York or Florida but if she's enrolled in school already she isn't going to want to change schools.
     
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    How about
    Trouba and Lemieux for Neal Pionk.
     
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    they literally signed him to that contract because they want him as our 1D. They didn't sign him to that contract for no reason. He's not even bad, he just gets shitted on because he doesn't produce points like Tony or Fox. We don't need every defensemen we have to put up points.
     
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    thats certainly a hot take. kudos.
     

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