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Jack Hughes on pace to have worst rookie season by a 1st overall forward since Patrik Stefan in 1999
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Deuce Awesome
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I think we have been kind of spoiled the last decade with talent. Not every draft year is going to provide a superstar, and there have been some seriously bad draft years for the first top five picks (1999, 2012 off the top of my head)
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You should open up a service and tell people what their children will become when they graduate high school - since, you know, you seem to have peoples futures figured out before they can even legally drink
SurferBroChad
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will this be thought of as a weak draft or are these guys just going to take a bit longer?He is not alone though. That is weird to see...
Hokinaittii
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People will say it's a weak draft for a few years until these guys take off and then those same people will tell us how they knew all along these kids just needed some time to grow into players they were drafted.
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I stand by this prediction from December, Hughes is absolutely nothing special. Marcus Johansson may have been too generous of a player comparison...
OvermanKingGainer
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Why aren't the Devils giving the kid 19+ minutes a night to develop? Those extra 3 minutes could be huge for his confidence.
bleedblue94
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I think you answered your own question. Giving a physically underdeveloped teenager more minutes than he can handle and setting him up to further struggle could also have a huge affect on his confidence...
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He is not alone though. That is weird to see...
their rookie years
when all was said and done
Duke Silver
Truce?
Neither Hughes nor Kakko should have been in the show this year.
I feel for Hughes, no way was he physically ready for the NHL, could have benefitted from a year in college much like his brother to get stronger and more used to playing more physically developed players. I think in the end he'll turn out fine, but it's very clear he wasn't ready for this level, and I feel the Devils forced it.
Not sure on Kakko, I thought he'd be pretty good since he was used to playing against men, maybe the jump to NA ice was tougher for him. As an Avs fan, we played Rantanen a year in the AHL, to help him adjust to the NA ice and game, it work very well, wonder if this would have benefitted Kakko as well.
Dach not surprised he isn't putting up huge numbers, really surprised he stuck around, even though he has the size, not sure he was quite ready for that big of talent jump from Juniors to NHL. I feel another year of dominating the WHL would have been beneficial.
Not sure on Kakko, I thought he'd be pretty good since he was used to playing against men, maybe the jump to NA ice was tougher for him. As an Avs fan, we played Rantanen a year in the AHL, to help him adjust to the NA ice and game, it work very well, wonder if this would have benefitted Kakko as well.
Dach not surprised he isn't putting up huge numbers, really surprised he stuck around, even though he has the size, not sure he was quite ready for that big of talent jump from Juniors to NHL. I feel another year of dominating the WHL would have been beneficial.
aufheben
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It absolutely has. His game revolves around maneuvering with possession below the hashmarks, and the gaps are closed much faster in the NHL. I think people exaggerated how physically ready he was too, he's only 199 lbs. He's already good at drawing penalties which is encouraging. His giveaways/takeaways are both top-3 on the team. Kid has some of the fastest hands I've ever seen, I still think he's going to be a monster when he fills out and adjusts to the time/space on the ice. Very good on the PP but has played on the 2nd unit most of the season which kind of sucks.
I mean Draisaitl only had 2G 7A in 37GP as a rookie and he's the best player in the world right now. Hughes is going to be a star, some of the comments about him in here are not going to age well.
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Hughes will be a Hart candidate for years... staring in about 2-3 years. He is a top-tier talent and superstar in the making. I have no doubt he will be competing with McDavid and Eichel soon. And then he will become a reference point for how not to judge a 18 y/o's performance.
Yeah he isn't going to be on that level
Right now the top10 in scoring included 4 players that had worse rookie seasons or weren't even in the NHL at this point.
Draisaitl 9p in 37gp in his d+1 season
Panarin was a 0.5 p/gp player in khl up to what would've been his d+4 season
Marchand had 1p in 20gp in his d+4 season
Kucherov had 18p in 52gp in his d+3 season
Plenty of other notable talented players that didn't have what it takes right away. Including Rantanen, Marner, Pastrnak, Zibanejad, Huberdeau and many more
Both Hughes and Kakko have incredible talent and have shown glimpses of it in the NHL too. That talent will be realized sooner or later for both of them. Most draft years have had 1 or 2 players who were truly ready for nhl right away. Just because this one didn't have that one player, doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad draft year either
Draisaitl 9p in 37gp in his d+1 season
Panarin was a 0.5 p/gp player in khl up to what would've been his d+4 season
Marchand had 1p in 20gp in his d+4 season
Kucherov had 18p in 52gp in his d+3 season
Plenty of other notable talented players that didn't have what it takes right away. Including Rantanen, Marner, Pastrnak, Zibanejad, Huberdeau and many more
Both Hughes and Kakko have incredible talent and have shown glimpses of it in the NHL too. That talent will be realized sooner or later for both of them. Most draft years have had 1 or 2 players who were truly ready for nhl right away. Just because this one didn't have that one player, doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad draft year either
DaPhazz
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No he won’t be. Hughes is just not the hyped player they made him out to be. Could see that before he ever even made the NJ team.
Hughes will be a RNH and not a McDavid or Eichel.
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all this tells me is that Hughes isn't ready for the NHL at 18
no shame in that...he'll be stronger and better next year
no shame in that...he'll be stronger and better next year
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