Friedman: "Islanders and Rangers could be offersheet teams"
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Haven't listened to the podcast yet, but the Rangers have their 2020 2nd or 3rd tied up in the Adam Fox trade. That limits the type of offer sheet that they could offer. Not sure if Friedman was talking about a big fish offer sheet who would command four 1sts, but that seems like a big risk for most teams.
MMC
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He mentioned that, but said it wouldn't really be an issue because they can easily change the picks being traded to make it work.
Calad
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Is gorton Darth Vader now? "I am altering the deal. Pray I do not alter it any further"
pld459666
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Rangers are going quail hunting this summer.
The Big game items are for other teams.
Try are they might to include the NYR in these things, it's all BS
The Big game items are for other teams.
Try are they might to include the NYR in these things, it's all BS
I could maybe see offer-sheeting a player like Kapanen, if we are able to get him to sign an offer to an AAV of $4,227,437 or less.
But we know he was implying Marner, and I hope that the NYI stay away from that. One player doesn't make a team (see McDavid, Edmonton) and in a salary cap system, giving away 4 first round picks, who provide years of ELC cap relief, is just not justifiable.
But we know he was implying Marner, and I hope that the NYI stay away from that. One player doesn't make a team (see McDavid, Edmonton) and in a salary cap system, giving away 4 first round picks, who provide years of ELC cap relief, is just not justifiable.
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Before people start talking about offer sheet this and that and get this return. I remember read that the NHL calculates the compensation over 5 years. Total of the contract divided by 5.
So for example, Offer sheet is sent for 7 years 7.5 million a year, no bonuses. It's accepted and not matched by the rights holding team. The league then takes:
7.5 x 7 = 52.5
52.5 / 5 = 10.5 a year.
Compensation goes from 1st, 2nd, and 3rd to 2 1sts, 2nd, and 3rd.
So for example, Offer sheet is sent for 7 years 7.5 million a year, no bonuses. It's accepted and not matched by the rights holding team. The league then takes:
7.5 x 7 = 52.5
52.5 / 5 = 10.5 a year.
Compensation goes from 1st, 2nd, and 3rd to 2 1sts, 2nd, and 3rd.
I'm not worried about Marner getting an offer sheet because a good team has their own guys to sign, they don't have the cap space to do it, and a bad team is not giving up 4 1st rounders and Marner would cost 4 1st rounders
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Skinnyjimmy08
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NHL needs more offersheets thrown around.
They are something I wish were actually utilized
They are something I wish were actually utilized
The other two guys are who the Leafs need to be worried about.
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agreed... people keep saying Marner but IMO there is no way he gets offersheeted... strongly feel Johnsson and Kapanen should be targets for all teams
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They need to reduce the outrageously high compensations though. It's seriously ridiculous how high the compensations are.
I have frequently said Lou offer sheeting Marner makes perfect sense to me. I don't see how the Rangers being in an article discussing offer sheets does anything other than getting clicks for the author of the article and of course, any free agency discussion has the Rangers as a player in the negotioation if only to drive the price up. I have absolutely ZERO issue with Gorton leaking out some interest to the media in order to put the screws to Dubas and make him feel like the deal better be done before an offer can be made. It's a savvy move if that's what's happening but really it doesn't fit the timeline of the rebuild. Why would you give an offer sheet to a guy when all rumors have put Panarin falling into your lap already?
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Would like to see the Jets give an offer sheet William Karlsson. For what Vegas did with Stastny and Brassard.
But I think lots of teams will go after Marner, Islanders I think is going to be one of them, maybe Colorado.
But I think lots of teams will go after Marner, Islanders I think is going to be one of them, maybe Colorado.
Dahlin 2 Eichel
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Teams would be stupid to go after Marner. If you want to hurt the leafs you go after the guys they plan on signing for ~2 and offer them 4.
Leafs have to pay Marner. Cut them deep in a different area.
Leafs have to pay Marner. Cut them deep in a different area.
In an offseason where Rantanen, Point, Aho, Tkachuck and more are RFAs I don't understand why people are so fixated on Marner.
Any offersheet for a player of his caliber is definitely going into 4x1st territory and...
1. Most teams don't have the cap to do that
2. Are too scared to lose 4 consecutive 1st round picks
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Well if they have to pay Marner, if you're a rival team you could sign Marner to something hilarious and since they "have" to pay him, you'll just be f***ing the Leafs over even harder. Worst case they don't match and now you have Mitch Marner
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Like it was said above, the Rangers dealing their 2nd/3rd rounders in the Fox trade made any realistic (?) offer sheets worth a 2nd rounder in compensation unlikely. They're not in a position to be risking their 2020 first rounder anyways considering how young the team will still be this season.
Never know now that they have been changed. Maybe some gms will grow some damn balls
Fox agrees to entry-level contract with Rangers
Yup, and there's a conditional 2020 pick involved which was what I was referencing. Barring an additional deal, the Rangers would be missing their 2020 2nd or 3rd from the deal, thus limiting the range of hypothetical offer sheet they could offer.
