Is Paul Maurice a good NHL coach?

Peggy

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"I bet you X happens" doesn't need any proof of why and where :laugh:

It's just a statement given that he's ready to bet you. That's it.

if you're willing to bet something you should have an idea of why you would put money down unless you just like gambling
if not it's just hot air and provided nothing to the conversation

I really can't see another team picking up a failed coach with a good team

he's got the most losses in the nhl. that should tell you "don't hire me 'cause I lose a lot"
 

GJF

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if you're willing to bet something you should have an idea of why you would put money down unless you just like gambling
if not it's just hot air and provided nothing to the conversation

I really can't see another team picking up a failed coach with a good team

he's got the most losses in the nhl. that should tell you "don't hire me 'cause I lose a lot"

No you can just as easily go with your own experience. Betting is gambling in most cases. If the subject you're betting on is defined, there is no reason to bet on it since most probably both sides know the definition. And who was talking about money? :D


But let's get back to topic.
 

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Wow it’s almost as if being the best coach in jets 2.0 history means nothing;)

No need for the 2.0 there... the original Jets had a series of awful coaches who rarely had any tenure with other NHL teams, either before or after they worked in Winnipeg.

Maurice is, almost by default, the best coach in Winnipeg Jets history period.

if you're willing to bet something you should have an idea of why you would put money down unless you just like gambling
if not it's just hot air and provided nothing to the conversation

I really can't see another team picking up a failed coach with a good team

he's got the most losses in the nhl. that should tell you "don't hire me 'cause I lose a lot"

You realize this guy coached for 15 years before he arrived in Winnipeg, and that he's still only 50 years old? That in about two weeks he's going to enter the top-10 all time for games coached and is about 2 seasons from being #3 all time? And again, that he's only 50 years old?

The likelihood that some team scoops him up after he leaves the Jets is VERY high. The guy's going to have like 15-20 years to sit around waiting for that phone call, with over 600 wins on his resume. All it takes is one GM out of 31 needing an experienced coach to handle a mid-season coaching change, and there you go.

Your expectation that I can look into my crystal ball and tell you what the team and situation will be, is ridiculous.
 

Hokinaittii

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Sami Kapanen said few years ago that Maurice is the best coach he has ever had. Also, considering Maurice has a lot years under his belt in the league as coach, he can't be as bad as some people think.
 

IPS

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Far better than some fans would prefer to admit. Has done a fantastic job with Winnipeg thus far this year.

Doing a fantastic job developing Laine too, he knows very well he doesn't belong in a top-line role at this stage of his career, and was probably kicking himself in the off-season for overplaying him in that role. Jets record is far better with Laine not on the top line.

Sami Kapanen said few years ago that Maurice is the best coach he has ever had. Also, considering Maurice has a lot years under his belt in the league as coach, he can't be as bad as some people think.

He's definitely not. All coaches have strengths and weaknesses and clearly Maurice has the trust of Jets management.
 

Peggy

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No need for the 2.0 there... the original Jets had a series of awful coaches who rarely had any tenure with other NHL teams, either before or after they worked in Winnipeg.

Maurice is, almost by default, the best coach in Winnipeg Jets history period.



You realize this guy coached for 15 years before he arrived in Winnipeg, and that he's still only 50 years old? That in about two weeks he's going to enter the top-10 all time for games coached and is about 2 seasons from being #3 all time? And again, that he's only 50 years old?

The likelihood that some team scoops him up after he leaves the Jets is VERY high. The guy's going to have like 15-20 years to sit around waiting for that phone call, with over 600 wins on his resume. All it takes is one GM out of 31 needing an experienced coach to handle a mid-season coaching change, and there you go.

Your expectation that I can look into my crystal ball and tell you what the team and situation will be, is ridiculous.
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should have an idea if you're willing to "bet" tho
nothing ridiculous about it
y challenge what I've said with nothing to back it up other than meaningless stats like "he's coached a lot"
he's lost a lot too. the most actually
 

GarbageGoal

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Below average coach who managed to hang on to his job long enough to get a very talented team that at least for now can't be hurt by his mediocrity
 

rabbitca

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He's average at best, and they're on a good roll right now (I'm assuming that's the reason for this thread)... Unfortunately I think this is the justification for his multi-year contract that the management team was looking for.

They still haven't announced how long he's been extended for, hopefully only 2 years. He's great at developing young players, I'll give him that. At a certain point the team outgrows him, and I think the Jets are fast approaching that point.

Here's hoping I'm wrong, I just feel that his history as a coach speaks volumes more than hopes and wishes of Jets fans.
 

zeke

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Always though he was hard done by in Toronto. His teams got absolutely sabotaged by horrific goaltending in Toronto. But his teams were always solid possesion teams despite not having not much in terms of star power.

One thing I question about his tactics, though, is the special teams. There's a chance that he's legit lacking in that area.
 

tarheelhockey

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should have an idea if you're willing to "bet" tho
nothing ridiculous about it
y challenge what I've said with nothing to back it up other than meaningless stats like "he's coached a lot"
he's lost a lot too. the most actually

I should have an idea what Paul Maurice’s next coaching job will be, after he’s fired at an indeterminate time and some other unknown coach also gets fired at an indeterminate time? Are you for real right now? Do you realize you’re asking me to literally predict the future?
 

Peggy

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I should have an idea what Paul Maurice’s next coaching job will be, after he’s fired at an indeterminate time and some other unknown coach also gets fired at an indeterminate time? Are you for real right now? Do you realize you’re asking me to literally predict the future?

this leaves you contraditicng yourself
you have no idea, but yet you can bet on it...
it's one or the other
I'm not asking you to predict the future, it you can take a guesstimate or have some sort of realistic idea

no winning team is gonna take Maurice and I can't think of a bottom end team that could use Maurice either

I just don't see much of a future for Maurice in the nhl. he still runs a top 6 and 2 checking lines

I'll meet you half way
the best I can see for Maurice is him being hired for a short term project. a temp at best
 

Romang67

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I think he does very well with a certain type of roster.

The problem is that we have moved away from that type of roster. He's an average coach, who's a horrible fit for the team, IMO.
 

firstemperor

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I've said before, he thinks the game well and is pretty articulate about pointing out problems. But fundamentally, he has trouble solving them from a tactical, systems standpoint. His players love him....but it doesn't translate into results. It was the same with the Leafs teams he coached as well. I'm not sure he fosters a general, habitual winning/competitive attitude that goes beyond the actual season (off-season as well).

I think the Jets are a talented team but Maurice isn't the type of coach to push them over the top. Not many coaches in this league can...and it's hard to identify the ones that will. It's a tough business...I'm not sure they're actually better firing him (unless you know for sure there's a better candidate to replace him and grow organically with the team).
 

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If the Jets had a coach like Bill Peters or Pete DeBoar there's a good chance they'd be in the thick of it for fighting for the first place in the Central this season
 

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If the Jets had a coach like Bill Peters or Pete DeBoar there's a good chance they'd be in the thick of it for fighting for the the first place in the Central this season

That's funny, the Hurricane fanbase/local media is starting to turn on Bill Peters because of the frustrating start to the most hyped season in years.
 

JetsFan815

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That's funny, the Hurricane fanbase/local media is starting to turn on Bill Peters because of the frustrating start to the most hyped season in years.

Whenever I watch Carolina, even the subpar players look great, granted they don't have much luck putting the puck in but I frequently see even the bottom 6 players on the Canes control play.

On the Jets often even the top players look bad at everything other than scoring goals. I have to think if Peters was coaching in Winnipeg the Jets look great every night and score at the same or higher rate
 

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