Is Ottawa the worst penalized team? Yup!
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And what happened on 3 December 2006, just a little over six years ago that would have caused us to drop from 12th to 27th??? 
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Because! That's why!
And what happened on 3 December 2006, just a little over six years ago that would have caused us to drop from 12th to 27th???
9/11?
I am no good with dates.
RedWhiteBlackGold
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Hmm a bit off topic but has Ottawa been the only Canadian team in the last 2 decades that had a few line brawls? Can't seem to remember any others off hand.
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Aye. Six seasons since Schaefer waved his towel. Six seasons of bad luck on calls.
Is it like a mirror? Maybe after another year we'll be in the clear...
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circa 2003 IIRC
Also, Bryan Murray was the Ducks coach at the time.
Dan Bylsma was playing at the time too, as was Jason York.
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Toronto consistently getting so few penalties is complete BS given how much they've sucked since the 04-05 lockout.
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Not at all surprised. Paul MacLean seems like a well liked and respected individual across the league yet it only took a couple of months before referees found some reason to put him in their bad books.
They've got some lingering issue with the Sens.
They've got some lingering issue with the Sens.
A lot of it probably has to do with most referees being from southern Ontario (i.e. Leaf fans) and Ottawa being the Leafs biggest rival since the early 2000's.
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They absolutely are. Traditionally it's the Habs but the two teams have played 1 game with immediate playoff implications against each other in the last 20 years.
SilverSeven
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And Toronto is? A team that brought in a bunch of thugs and announced their plan was to be as goonish as possible, ended up being one of the worst teams in the league, yet still somehow drew FAR more penalties than they took.
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Bump!
This is where ottawa ranks in:
PP%: 9th
Pk%: 4th
ES GF/GA ratio: 4th
So if we were to be average in pp vs pk time we would probably be somewhere between 4th and 9th in the league...give or take a spot or two. But because we're shorthanded way more then we're a man up, we're 12th in point%.
It's funny how a stat alone does nothing, but when you start to piece them together, they make a lot of sense.
Ottawa has the second least amount of powerplay time at 58:43. Toronto has the most with 101:36. Toronto was 1st with 65 opportunities. Ottawa 26th with 39. There's no way that's accurate to what's going on on the ice.
In terms of the pk, we've spent more time shorthanded then 20 other teams. Toronto, only 8 teams spent less time shorthanded.
Ottawa is 28th in pp-pk time with -21:40. So for ottawa to go even on the year, they would near 11 powerplays in a row without getting a penalty. Taking our percentage, that's 2-3 goals. That's just through a dozen games. And that's just to be an average team in terms of pp-pk time.
So despite being top 5 in 5 on 5, top 5 in pk, and top 10 in pp, we fall outside of the top 10 in the standings because we're penalized more then most, and get way less powerplays then most teams.
This is where ottawa ranks in:
PP%: 9th
Pk%: 4th
ES GF/GA ratio: 4th
So if we were to be average in pp vs pk time we would probably be somewhere between 4th and 9th in the league...give or take a spot or two. But because we're shorthanded way more then we're a man up, we're 12th in point%.
It's funny how a stat alone does nothing, but when you start to piece them together, they make a lot of sense.
Ottawa has the second least amount of powerplay time at 58:43. Toronto has the most with 101:36. Toronto was 1st with 65 opportunities. Ottawa 26th with 39. There's no way that's accurate to what's going on on the ice.
In terms of the pk, we've spent more time shorthanded then 20 other teams. Toronto, only 8 teams spent less time shorthanded.
Ottawa is 28th in pp-pk time with -21:40. So for ottawa to go even on the year, they would near 11 powerplays in a row without getting a penalty. Taking our percentage, that's 2-3 goals. That's just through a dozen games. And that's just to be an average team in terms of pp-pk time.
So despite being top 5 in 5 on 5, top 5 in pk, and top 10 in pp, we fall outside of the top 10 in the standings because we're penalized more then most, and get way less powerplays then most teams.
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Benttheknee
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This is something that I did not check over time. I only checked the difference, but I wonder if the Sens simply draw a lot less penalties.
jbeck5
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That's the case. Ottawa is worse at drawing penalties then they are at taking penalties.
They fall in the 25-30 area for drawing penalties. but are in the 20 area for taking penalties. So they're near the bottom in both(causing a huge disadvantage) but worse in drawing.
