If one wants to have 4-5 Art Rosses, as select few all-time greats do, one has to beat some all-time greats. That's how it works.
Is McDavid doomed to be the next Marcel Dionne?
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If one wants to have 4-5 Art Rosses, as select few all-time greats do, one has to beat some all-time greats. That's how it works.
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which Gretzky/Orr caliber players or 70s Canadians/80s Islanders caliber teams does McDavid have to deal with?
the competition is just not comparable at all
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You don't get it.
The Oilers' own mismanagement is the competition.
A single player can't win a cup. Takes a team. Who really trusts the Oilers to put a cup winning TEAM on the ice?
Well, to my surprise many people on this board are convinced that Crosby is better than Esposito and Lafleur, and McDavid was able to beat Crosby by a wide margin last year while Crosby was allegedly having his 4th-best season.
We'll see who McDavid will have to beat going forward; one cannot exclude the possibility that some youngsters McDavid beat this season will eventually be considered all-time greats.
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sure I bet a bunch of people would rank Crosby over Esposito and Lafleur that's pretty reasonable(although i'm sure most of them would concede that it's at least close)
but how does Letang compare to Bobby Orr? how do last years Penguins compare to a Canadiens team that went 60-8-12 with an utterly ridiculous +216 goal differential?
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It's really going to take Mcdavid to step up and tell management who he wants on the team. He has to take things over like Crosby has done with the Penguins.
If he remains complacent and is just fine with putting up big numbers while leaving everything to management, then Dionne is a good comparison.
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It is hard to win the cup in any scenario, so it is possible he never wins a cup. He has never been on a cup contending level team yet, so I will wait until that happens before making any predictions. This is a ridiculous discussion for a player that is only 21 though.
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No player has ever won a cup single-handedly.
So he is either the greatest player of all time by a huge margin in your opinion, or you just don't understand the game, or the simple fact that forwards are on the ice for roughly 1/3 of it.
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He is the caliber of player that should be able to win a cup in his career.
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Marcel! He was an awesome player and still is a very nice man. Has a store /restaurant not far from me. I'm sure there are many players with lack luster careers who have their name on the cup, but 'doomed' is kinda strong when describing Marcels career.
It could and has happened to several offensive talents. Was Marcel the only example that came to mind,or just the highest profile player without his name on the cup?
It could and has happened to several offensive talents. Was Marcel the only example that came to mind,or just the highest profile player without his name on the cup?
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