Is Matthews the best goal scorer to enter the leauge since OV?

Is Matthews the best pure scorer to enter the league since OV?

  • Yes

    Votes: 25 15.2%
  • No, but top 3

    Votes: 41 24.8%
  • No, but top 5

    Votes: 25 15.2%
  • No, but top 10

    Votes: 48 29.1%
  • No, not even top 10

    Votes: 26 15.8%

  • Total voters
    165
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Sojourn

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So if he never hits 60 but has say 5 straight years of minimum 40 goals, so last year he hit 40.

Let's say he hits 50 this year

54 next year 48 in 19 20

And in 20-21 52.

That's 5 straight years of 40+ goals 3 years of 50+ goals

by the way he's capable of that, he's capable of 5 straight years of 40+ goals and 3 years of 50+ goals.

Is that not better than 1 season of 60 goals?

I think you're missing a key point here:

Stamkos did not simply have 1 season of 60 goals.

Maybe you misunderstood the intention of bringing up the 60 goal mark, but there are only two players who have done that recently. One of them is Ovechkin. Since the poll asks if Matthews is the best pure goal scorer since Ovechkin, it's probably smart to go to only other guy who also has a 60-goal season. He also has a 51 goal season, two other 40+ goal seasons, and two more years where he was on pace for 40 goals but the lockout or an injury cut into his total goals. Basically, a healthy Stamkos in his prime scores a lot of goals, and the only player who scores more is Ovechkin.

So, I'll reiterate, Matthews does not simply need to stay healthy and keep producing.
 

DatSnipeMatthews

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Yeah, its not like he's scored 37, 39 and 40 goals while only playing a full 82 games once.
Tarasenko is close to 26 years old and has scored 40 goals exactly once. Matthews scored 40 goals in his rookie season, at 19 years old. For people to say that Tarasenko is a better goal scorer than Matthews is frankly ridiculous. Not to mention Matthews plays center thus has much more responsibilities than Tarasenko will ever have.

Matthews also scored 1 more goal in the playoffs than Tarasenko despite playing 5 less games. And keep in mind this was his first playoffs. Face it, Matthews is on another level than Tarasenko when it comes to goal scoring. And then on like 3 higher levels when it comes to overall play.
 

Sojourn

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Tarasenko is close to 26 years old and has scored 40 goals exactly once. Matthews scored 40 goals in his rookie season, at 19 years old. For people to say that Tarasenko is a better goal scorer than Matthews is frankly ridiculous. Not to mention Matthews plays center thus has much more responsibilities than Tarasenko will ever have.

Matthews also scored 1 more goal in the playoffs than Tarasenko despite playing 5 less games. And keep in mind this was his first playoffs. Face it, Matthews is on another level than Tarasenko when it comes to goal scoring. And then on like 3 higher levels when it comes to overall play.

If you believe that, you should be comfortable waiting to see it happen. Players develop at different rates. A player cracking his way into the NHL a little later doesn't make him less of a player. Teemu Selanne was, what? 23 his first season? I think 684 goals kind of speaks for itself.

What matters is what a player accomplishes. Tarasenko has 3 straight seasons at, or very near, 40 goals. I don't think it's outrageous to suggest Matthews needs to prove he can do that too to be viewed as equivalent, or better.
 

Sky04

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So if he never hits 60 but has say 5 straight years of minimum 40 goals, so last year he hit 40.

Let's say he hits 50 this year

54 next year 48 in 19 20

And in 20-21 52.

That's 5 straight years of 40+ goals 3 years of 50+ goals

by the way he's capable of that, he's capable of 5 straight years of 40+ goals and 3 years of 50+ goals.

Is that not better than 1 season of 60 goals?

Nope, 60 goals or go home.
 
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