Is it possible for a team to revolutionize the game currently?

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  1. gamer1035

    gamer1035 Registered User

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    Like Golden State did with 3's in the nba, could an nhl team do something differently to change the way the game is played today?
     
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    OVO16 Austin Matthews has me SHOOK

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    Tough to say anything specific like a "3 pointer"...but I think it's abundantly clear that more and more NHL teams are really focusing skill over grit now.
     
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    Yes, they could try to play most game without a goalie.
     
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    If we knew how to revolutionize it, it'd already be happening.
     
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    Incorporate total football into total hockey perhaps. Nothing to the level of spamming 3s though.
     
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    Everyone is just in it for your money now, so no.
     
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    I can't imagine anything develops that, as of right now, are realistic or could revolutionize the game.

    However. I am not a top hockey mind as evidenced by the fact I'm posting on a hockey message board from the toilet.
     
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    Nope.

    And Golden State didn’t revolutionize the NBA.
     
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    Winning a game 7-5 or 2-1 doesn't really matter either way, sure you'd like to win both types of games but in the end you're just conditioned into believing that 2-1 or 3-2 scores are the norm. If a team has an offense that can regularly put up 4-5+ goals, it would make no sense to neuter that strength just to play grind out hockey. Force the other team to counter however many goals you score. 2-1, 3-2 hockey is just a deflection/tip/shot away from changing how you feel about that
     
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    Most likely it would be more about changes in rules or equipment than about the actual team.

    There haven’t been many truly revolutionary moments in the sport that weren’t connected to rules or technology. The use of defensemen (Harvey, Orr), the transition to a short-shift game, and the Russian influence on offensive strategy are the only ones that jump to mind for me. It kind of felt like the possession game was heading in the direction of a revolution, but the Carolina Hurricanes did everyone a favor and showed all the possible flaws in that strategy before it really caught on.
     
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    Critical91 Matthews, roll a Constitution saving throw.

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    Butterfly goaltending felt like it had a large affect as well.
     
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    We're starting to see more and more teams pulling goalies a lot earlier. Think it was the Avs who did it crazily a few years back with 5+ mins left on the clock and had some moderate success with it.

    I'd like to see a team try 4-5 forwards 5v5 just for ****s and giggles.
     
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    I’d put that one in the “technology” category, at least primarily.
     
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    Yep. Here's how:

    4 forwards - 1 dman.

    Conversely 2 forwards, 3 men could also be an option but I think with how dmen are paid going 4 forwards and a dman (16 forwards, 3 dmen) is something I think one team might eventually look at. It's not unfounded or unheard of either. The Torpedo system has been used quite extensively by the Swedes in early century play, as well as the Bruins and Hawks in the 50's and 60's. That system is more like 2 forwards, 2 halfbacks, and 1 dmen, but I think you could even stretch it more and go even more offence.

    I mean really, why are we so stuck on 3-2? There's nothing in the rules that says you have to go that route. I think just like in the NBA we'll see a shift to more offense and that could be a way to do it.
     
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    Isn’t that basically what a 1-3-1 is?
     
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    Golden state did revolutionize the NBA, that’s a well known fact.

    They were the first time to not play a centre and run with a small lineup.

    They were also the first team to start attempting copious amounts of threes as analytically its more efficient than mid range jumpers.
     
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    Yes because I am from the future, the 2018-19 Maple Leafs went on to simply score their way to the Stanley Cup winning playoff games by scores that put those in the 80's to shame.

    "Toronto was simply too powerful that year, overwhelming their opposition with an upwards of 7-8 goals a night. Many said it could never be done and pointed to the late 00's Capitals teams as proof, but Toronto had more firepower than those teams had and it certainly showed. The 2018-19 Maple Leafs altered the way offence and winning is viewed in the modern day NHL. Sip from the Holy Grail Toronto, after 51 long years now its your time to bask in the glory" -- Excerpt taken from a June 2019 Toronto Star article.
     
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    Patrick Roy’s “pulled the goalie with 4 mins left” was a good one
    Also who every started to use a 4th forward on PP
     
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    What about the trap? Seemed to have impact the league.
     
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    They weren't the first team to do any of that. It really started with Don Nelson and Nellie Ball also D'Antoni's Sun's teams had some influence. Golden State is just an evolution of that. Since the NBA removed all the hand checking and rough defense in the 90's the game has opened up. I see a similar change happening in the NHL.
     
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    Win the cup and teams will follow your model.
     
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    If you have 50 shots per game every game, then there is big possibility you will score many goals. Dont focus to D. Give also a goalie curved stick, so he can make beautiful paces.
     
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    It's already being revolutionized. More than ever, the game and its personnel emphasize brains over brawn; quickness of foot and hands over strength and size. Some could say it's always consistently in a state of change as it is.
     
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    It's a constant change as teams tend to copy the last cup winner. The next time a team like the Bruins or Kings has success again teams will look to them and wanna be more like them. Even the Capitals had Ovechkin, Wilson, Orlov and Orpik who can all wreck people. They were also near the bottom in possession both in the regular season and in the playoffs, and so teams must now re-evalute what all these numbers really mean.

    The back-to-back Penguins champions had plenty of grit. There will always be room for grit and defensive oriented forwards in the game, even Chayka knows this. Hence why he'd rather dress Richardson, Martinook, Cousins, Archibald and even Rinaldo over some skilled fringe player who isn't good enough to play a skill game at the NHL level, or over a skilled kid who just isn't ready for the big league.

    By that I'm not saying that Rinaldo should be a regular NHL'er. But if there was any direct correlation between skill = good for possesion and grit = bad for possesion, then Andrew Cogliano wouldn't be one of the Ducks best possesion forwards year in and year out.
     
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    Yes but it requires the league and refs eliminating interference
     

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